Dauntless and not Avenger. The Avenger had a ball turret with one MG all his life.
If I remember correctly it was after the Coral Sea Battle that SBDs began to have twin MGs installed so that at Midway they were common.
Um, I think he really means what he originally said - TBD's....
July 8 2012, 7:36 PM
...since Avengers - TBF's - did not enter service in squadron strength (note I said squadron strength - a detachment of VT-8 had a few Avengers that flew off Midway Island) until after Midway, in early June of '42. At least one squadron of SBD Dauntlesses, Scouting 2 from USS Lexington, had the single .30 cal mount at Coral Sea.
Joe Hegedus (Login JoeHegedus) HyperScale Forums 69.161.86.200
Re: You mean SBDs not TBDs
July 8 2012, 7:36 PM
I suspect he meant just what he typed- TBD Devastator. The TBF Avenger did not enter fleet service until just before Midway; 6 Avengers of VT-8 participated in that battle, flying from Midway Island.
Devastators and Dauntlesses both carried a single .30 cal. machine gun as rear armament at Coral Sea.
Ginger's Dad (Login gingersdad) HyperScale Forums 69.136.186.184
I meant the TBD.....
July 8 2012, 8:39 PM
....as in Torpedo Bomber, Douglas (aka "Devastator"). Not to be confused with Scout Bomber, Douglas (Dauntless); or Torpedo Bomber, Grumman (Avenger).
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Walter Lord mentions that Waldron spent time getting the twin mounts for his squadron once the Hornet and Enterprise arrived back at Pearl from the South Pacific. They had been dispatched there after returning from the Doolittle mission, but arrived to late to take part in Coral Sea.
As Lord told the story, Waldron was so elated after getting whatever ordnance officer to issue the mounts that he left his flight gloves behind at that office.
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