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Camo-scheme help needed...

July 13 2012 at 3:48 PM
  (Login SpikeSchumacher)
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Any of you gentlemen (or ladies) have any idea as to what the camo-scheme for the upper surfaces of this aircraft might have been?


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Thanks,

Mathias
Monterey, Calfornia

 
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Brian P.
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76.226.123.33

This profile...

July 13 2012, 4:08 PM 

appears to represent a Bf-109K-4 of III/JG53 flown by Ernst Dieter Barnhard, Germany 1945. Camouflage is thought to be RLM 81/82 (or is it 83) over RLM 76 although your profile suggests an RLM 84 underside. Upper camouflage colors presumably would be RLM 81/82(83) in the standard pattern seen on late war Bf-109G-10's and K's. I'm sure some Luftwaffe experten will be along soon to either refute, amend or confirm this info. HTH.

 
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(Login modeldad)
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Ah yes, the great RLM 77 debate.

July 13 2012, 4:38 PM 

Here is the caption from the profile:

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/luftcambg_8.htm

Messerschmitt Bf 109K-4
Staff Flight, III./JG 53
Lt. Ernst-Dieter Bernhard, Kaufbeuren, Germany, 19 April 1945

"The upper surfaces of this aircraft are painted in RLM 77 Grey (the lighter of the two greys) and RLM 75 Grey-Violet. Lower surfaces are in the non-standard yellow-green. A number of Bf 109K4s wore this interesting scheme (see Part Four of this series for more detail). The original fuselage code (or possibly delivery number) has been painted out in a darker colour. At least one source suggests the overpainting was in RLM 74 Grey-Green, but this colour was discontinued and rarely seen applied to these late-war fighters"

Whether 77 was used as a camouflage color or whether it was just a late war home brew light gray will never be resolved. There are two schools of thought, and the body count is high. The underside would be the "So called 84".

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(Login SpikeSchumacher)
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Thank you Gents! n/t

July 13 2012, 9:06 PM 


 
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(Login Cpt_Farrel)
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Additional thoughts...

July 14 2012, 3:34 AM 

I'm writing from memory now but as I recall from the colorpicture of this aircraft the undersurfaces were regular RLM76.

I compared some modelling colors to the RLM77 chip in Ken Merricks latest work and the Vallejo Model Air Medium Sea Grey is spot on.

Cheers / Anders

 
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