USAF Sea KingJuly 22 2012 at 5:08 PM
|Bruce Archer (Login BruceArcher)|
from IP address 188.8.131.52
I was watching a show on the fire aboard the Enterprise in 1969, and there were several scenes with a grey Sea King with US Air Force titling. So does anyone know about the USAF usage of the Sea King?
They were purchased to service the Texas Towers off the east coast
|July 22 2012, 5:14 PM |
CH-3As used for just a short time. Apparently they used them at Tyndall for a while as well.
Did it look like the USAF CH-3B was stock footage?
|July 22 2012, 5:28 PM |
I ask because, The Fire on the USS Enterprise was off Hawaii, and I wonder if the USAF Sea Kings got based out of Hickam, like with the Catch a falling star squadron or something. Thanks, Darren
|This message has been edited by 940735 from IP address 184.108.40.206 on Jul 22, 2012 7:02 PM|
|July 22 2012, 7:06 PM |
|July 22 2012, 7:17 PM |
The illustration does not look like the Sea King i the program. It was a lighter grey, and it had "US Air Force" on the tail boom.
You could see the Enterprise's deck number when the Sea King landed for medivac. So they were in Hawaii.
I'm certain . . .
|July 22 2012, 7:31 PM |
. . . what you saw was a CH-3 in gray (or aluminum) paint, not in the "jolly green giant" camouflage that battle-zone ships had. It's the cargo-ramp version of the H-3, while the Sea King is the boat-tail version.
|July 22 2012, 7:53 PM |
Thanks for the info Bruce.
|July 22 2012, 8:00 PM |
The illustration is incorrect
|July 22 2012, 9:35 PM |
They were delivered in the then-standard USN scheme of FS16081 and fluorescent red-orange, not International Orange...
I have seen pics of them in an overall light grey or silver with "U.S. AIR FORCE" on the tail boom. Having "USAF" on the side of an aircraft is highly non-standard.
And here's some more, from a familiar site
|July 22 2012, 9:09 PM |
Darren's right 6593rd Test Squadron, 6594th Test Group
|July 23 2012, 12:50 AM |
How About US Army SH-3s?
|July 23 2012, 2:14 AM |
Here's a photo of Werner von Braun and President Kennedy at Redstone Arsenal in 1963.
That looks like a US Army SH-3 in the background, or is it a VH-3? I presume this is an Army VH-3A?
|July 23 2012, 9:28 AM |
You're correct, Scott, that's a VH-3A. Two of the original batch of VH-3's were operated in Army markings with Army crews for a period of time. Don't have the serial # handy.
150611, 150613 and 150617
|July 23 2012, 9:44 PM |
According to Joe Baugher's website those three VH-3As (originally designated HSS-2Z) were operated in Army markings, while the others wore the Marines' markings. Oddly enough, even the Army-assigned VH-3s wore Navy bureau numbers. I can definitely confirm 150611 wore Army markings because it's the VH-3 that took President Johnson from Andrews AFB to the White House the night of Nov. 22, 1963; as a result you see it a lot in photos and footage from Johnson's brief address that night at Andrews, and in some photos you can make out that number. 150611, incidentally, is now at the Reagan Library parked next to SAM 27000. 150617 is at the Nixon Library and Museum, and it's famous for being the VH-3 that Nixon left the White House aboard on August 9, 1974.
Sometime during the Johnson administration the VH-3As shifted to the first iteration of the VH-3 markings still used today, with "United States of America" on the aft fuselage instead of the specific service markings. IIRC, the Army bowed out in 1976 and the Presidential VH-3s became the province of the Marine Corps.
To bring this back to models, I have a Hasegawa SH-3 squirreled away for conversion to a VH-3A in the original Army markings, with the Military District of Washington insignia and everything else. It's something you don't see ever day, that's for sure!
CH-3B's also opearated from Kwaj
|July 23 2012, 9:45 AM |
The professor of my rotary wing engineering class used to fly CH-3B's at Kwajalien in the late '60's
Used to recover Minuteman dummy MERV warheads after splashdown following launch from Vandenberg. Never asked, but assume he was with the 6593rd at the time. He had a lot of great stories, including flying with the 20th SOS "Pony Express" in Cambodia.
He used to pull a lot of the performance problems we worked in class from the CH-3B -1!