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Don't get me wrong the Mustang is a great aircraft, but is there any thoughts why the P-47 (F-47 by the 1950's)was not used instead of the F-51 in Korea? Just seemed like the mission was made for the Jug... or maybe the Jug was not as plentiful by the early 50's....
just ramblin' on...
The Jug was pretty much gone by the time Korea broke out. The USAF made a decision to keep the P-51 due to its superior performance and range, and that's what was available when the shooting started. I don't think the problem of a single round in a coolant pipe in ground attack missions crossed many minds when the decision to ditch the Jug was made, but then nobody expected another shooting war 5 years later either, especially not in Korea.
...that he was glad he had the Mustang instead of the Thundebolt, because in his opinion the 47 wouldn't have been able to get into and out of all the little valleys and whatnot of the Korean topography that he had to get down into. Something I'd never heard or thought of before.
There was an east/west split before the war. You see Guard units in the east with P-47s, and the Mustangs in the west. The P-47 should have been deployed though. But you also see throughout the war a failure to believe its scale until the die was cast. Mustang parts became pretty scarce themselves.
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This message has been edited by Confido from IP address 220.127.116.11 on Aug 20, 2012 11:39 PM
There were serviceability problems with P-47s' turbos over the long haul. It may be the attrition in Europe was such that the issue didn't emerge, but in postwar use, wastage went way down and it did arise as a problem, so there may have a judgment that the maintenance effort was out of line, and it made sense to standardize on the type that needed less.
And I'm speculating, but generally, there are good reasons why one type is favored over another, and in peacetime, it usually has economic roots.
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the 'Bolt had the same built-in vulnerability as the Corsair.
In that its oil cooler had no protection against ground fire. The armor arrangement for fighters (protection from astern/ahead attack) had no relevance for CAS or ground attack in general.
Over 300 U-Birds were lost in Korea, the largest number of any navy a/c. Part of this was because it showed up on EVERY flat top that launched things that dropped things that went bump in the day and night.
But the oil cooler issue....was an issue.
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Grant Matsuoka (Login gmat5037) HyperScale Forums 18.104.22.168
Which would a fighter jock want to fly?
August 21 2012, 11:18 AM
In the Summer of 1950, the ROCAF had F-47Ns that could have been shipped over and the THANG also flew F-47Ns and they might still have the airframes and parts from the 81st FG that deactivated at Wheeler AFB in 1949. But I think that it's kind of would you rather go to war in a Spitfire or a Hurricane decision.
This message has been edited by gmat5037 from IP address 22.214.171.124 on Aug 21, 2012 11:19 AM
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