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PB-1W in China 1948 color scheme question - pic

April 20 2017 at 9:52 AM

DJ  (Login 38Chip)
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I found some references to PB-1 detachments in Tsingtao, China 1947-1949. Does anyone have references to color schemes and markings? This is a sample PB-1W (maybe bare metal, maybe aluminum lacquer?) taken in the same time frame. Any idea if they switched over to blue before 1950? Also what is the color of the hub? Many thanks

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Lynn
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No idea on the PB-1s in China, but is that an overall Sea Blue J2F-6 back there?

April 20 2017, 10:53 AM 

I don't think I've ever seen an overall GSB Duck before, but that's sure what it looks like in the background!

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Mark Allen M
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This one looks to be Lynn ... unless

April 20 2017, 10:59 AM 

that's a different color, perhaps red? or ...

J2F-6 It was surplused from NAS San Point and became NL1939M
J2F-6 It was surplused from NAS San Point and became NL1939M

 
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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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How about a little black duck

April 20 2017, 11:23 AM 

Ulithi Is. Caroline Islands. 1945

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Or duck camouflaged

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DJ
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Any idea about the whereabouts / date of the black Duck?

April 20 2017, 11:53 AM 

Thanks!!

 
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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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it's in the post above the picture.

April 20 2017, 11:57 AM 


 
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Dave Cantrell
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Wow.. None of us are...

April 20 2017, 6:20 PM 

running for public office. Dad will whip out a "picture" from somewhere.. wink.gif

Damn, Dad. Is there anything you don't have at least one shot of. An overhead color shot of the Arizona to determine if the tops of those gun turrets were actually red would be nice. LOL

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Lewin
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Re: PB-1W in China 1948 color scheme question - pic

April 20 2017, 11:27 AM 

What I find interesting in the photo, it still has the lower nose gun turret, and the top turret, and has drop tanks between the outboard and inboard engine nacelles.


"Interesting. You're afraid of women and insects. Lady bugs must make you catatonic!" Sheldon Cooper, "The Big Bang Theory"

 
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DJ
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Are those P-38 310 gallon tanks??

April 20 2017, 11:54 AM 

Just wondering

 
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Brad
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Aren't the seams on Lockheed drop tanks on the vertical, not horizontal? n/t

April 20 2017, 1:14 PM 

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Mike West
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The tank pictured has a large fairing

April 20 2017, 1:36 PM 

P-61 tanks?

 
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Mark Allen M
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another shot slightly different angle ...

April 20 2017, 12:53 PM 

And yes that looks to be GSB in the background Lynn.

PB-1W 77212 (Ex-44-83864) VP-51 NAS Norfolk 1946(R)

PB-1W 77212 (Ex-44-83864) VP-51 NAS Norfolk 1946(R)

 
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Mark Allen M
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One more ...

April 20 2017, 1:04 PM 

This one states: "Boeing XPB-1W Fortress c 1945"

Boeing_XPB-1W_Fortress_on_the_ground_c1945

 
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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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Different one and, WOW!, Fully armed.

April 20 2017, 1:24 PM 


 
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Mike West
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Navy Prototype?

April 20 2017, 1:41 PM 

31 B-17 were acquired by the Navy as surplus from the USAAF in 1945. In service flown sans armament and turret openings faired over.

 
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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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Experimental. Seems to be an XPB-1W...

April 20 2017, 2:08 PM 

SN# 77258 - Lockheed-Vega XPB-1 Fortress - former Army B-17G-100-VE 44-85683 obtained by US Navy in June 1945 for experimental tests.

 
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Mark Allen M
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XPB-1 is correct as I stated ...

April 20 2017, 2:18 PM 

Lockheed/Vega B-17G-100-VE s/n 44-85683 transferred to US Navy as PB-1W Bu. No. 77258 per J. Bougher which again is also correct.

 
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Mike West
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Sorry Mark

April 20 2017, 2:56 PM 

Got caught up in just looking at the pictures! So then it can be considered the prototype.

 
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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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Prototype is more like nothing before it..XPB-1 was an experimental adaptation.

April 20 2017, 3:15 PM 

Took an existing aircraft and modified it.


    
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Mark Allen M
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No 'Sorry's' necessary Mike ...

April 20 2017, 3:31 PM 

... I too get caught up in looking at the photos wink.gif

 
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