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How to tell a F6F-3 from a F6F-5 (early)?

June 17 2017 at 4:00 AM
Roger Cockburn  (Login Hon.JohnByng)
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I thought that the difference between -3 and -5 was the the deletion of the window behind the pilot in the -5 but I misread the caption in my book and the window was deleted during -5 production so if it is not there the plane must be a -5 but is there a way to tell the earlier -5 from -3?

 
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Darrell B
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The biggest difference is that the -5 will have a flat windscreen.

June 17 2017, 4:06 AM 

All F6F-5s left the factory in all over GSB paint. The window behind the pilot was retained in early -5 production. The area visible through the window should be primer gray (Grumman Gray).

Hope this helps!

 
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Chad Veich
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Re: The biggest difference is that the -5 will have a flat windscreen.

June 17 2017, 3:43 PM 

For many years I too thought that all -5 were painted GSB from the factory. Then I was confronted with Bruce Williams' "White 25". How do you explain that?

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Gil Hodges
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Fewer cowl flaps

June 17 2017, 7:07 AM 

Hard to see in pics, but the 5 has fewer cowl flaps on the bottom. Also, the 5 doesn't have the small bumps on the side at the rear of the cowl.

 
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Dwayne S.
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Not true, the later -3s had similar cowl arrangement

June 17 2017, 8:13 AM 

to the -5. As the -3 production moved along, the lower cowling flaps were deleted, then the side bulges were removed. Well before the time production switched to the -5, the cowling on the -3 was similar or the very same as the -5. The Kagero Vol. 10 on the Hellcat indicates it started with "Copies 1501-..." (BuNo?). I don't have the numbers at the ready, but at least a large percentage of the -3s had this later cowl design.

Other changes included new arrangement of wing panels, aileron balance and trim tabs on each wing. The Kagero book indicates that the late -3s ("Copies series from 3451") had rocket stubs as standard equipment. That's a new one on me. I don't recall seeing any in service photographs with these on -3s.

HTH,
Dwayne

 
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Pat Donahue
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-3 with rocket stubs

June 17 2017, 12:34 PM 

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Jerry
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Also some F6F-3 N's had the -5 style windscreennt nt

June 17 2017, 9:44 AM 

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Steven "Modeldad" Eisenman
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Here ya go..changes were progressive through the -3 and -5

June 17 2017, 10:39 AM 

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Pat Donahue
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The -5 had a triangular fairing aft of the innercooler

June 17 2017, 11:42 AM 

exit under the wing centersection, used to reduce drag in this area. IIRC Hasegawa gives this in their 1/48 kit. You can see it under the wing snuggled up against the fuselage in this photo ( behind the bomb rack and above the circular access plate.)

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Roger Cockburn
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Thanks guys

June 17 2017, 3:19 PM 

It seems a bit more complicated than I imagined. Not really a problem I suppose; I need to study photos more carefully!

 
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