hey wantoks,

"TAIWANESE US$30 million scandal"...

isn't it sad to see our political leaders becoming namby-pamby/pathetic??? NO Politicians cares for the integrity of the nation and no leader dares to leave a memorable legacy on a good course for the future. but greed and corruption lures the core of their hearts..denial becomes the dark weapons for self-defense; yet gluttonous and voracious becomes elements of their wealth.

...So freaking corrupt leaders..PNG has no bright future!!!!!!!so sad for the gullible or innocuous population..

very soon PNG will have identity crisis in the world spectrum...


where is PNG going????

its definitely sad and corruption is inevitable..

There is too much generalising on this page, not all politicians steal, some of the members try their best to change what is happening to or beautiful country, there are just some bad or rotten apples spoiling it for the ones who work hard to do the right thing.

as far as I have been living in PNG for more than 30 yrs, I have seen none. when I say "NONE" I mean absolutely no one has ever accomplish something better for PNG..some have done tittle....some have tried but failed, some had never known how to start or where to sart, some have suffocated themselves through their greed, some have big mouths like Luther Wenge!!, ....(countlessly none...)yet present MPs and PM are same...

In many ways, I agree.... PNG politicians are "namby-pamby" bounce of kleptomaniacs and numskulls.... at one point, they deny and later they admit (Taiwanese scandal).... .where is the factuality but corruption becomes a paramount umbrella that covers the whole lot of POLITICIANS,...

do not be gullible,, mate...open your eyes mate.

Since you have lived in PNG for over 30 years answer me this, when a position becomes localised why is that the PNG fellow does not get paid the same as the expat for doing the same work?

The civilised Tiwanese offials involve in the corrupt deal have resigned, the uncivilised PNG officials as always, will never resign even facts are very clear. No one in PNG ever resign for the good of the country even when they are found to be guilty.
Blood will also spill, property damage just to keep the public job. eg physical confrontation resulting in someone badly injured involving the appointment of NIO Boss some years ago. Even millions of kinas are wasted on court cases just to fight over those jobs etc. Money that can be well spent in the rural communities are beind wasted by few nut case in Waigani.

PNG mi sore......

are you gullible or stupid???, political manipulation or nepotism becomes the fundamental agenda...in this sense, bias selection/appoitments .... "who I know determines" ideology; despite who I appoint (regardless of your creed, colour or race)...this is the philosophy they have....

these politicians neither sympathize your grief concerns of PNG's development nor care human welfares.... so long there there is deep rooted relationship with whom they have appointed; that would guarantee a benefit that would enhance their personal wealth....the person is given a position....thats how PNG works now...

bro,, ....its not subtle question.....

PNG is a circus run by clowns, and that we are just circus-goers. We don't think, and we are just in for a laugh. The world outside sees PNG as a laughing stock! We happen to love these clowns in the circus-house (parliament) so much that we don't want to stand up against things they do or say.

I can't imagine that another 40 years will be a repeated legacy of The Grand Clown! I want to one day hold my head up high and proudly call myself a Papua New Guinean! but can't do that now...


Mountain Mangi

tru tumas,
mi sem lo tok mi PNG fella.....should say, PNG bilong to rich fellas..

I rather nationalize myself in other parts of the world and be proud of that!!!!


corrupt and pamuk man na meri pulap lo PNG....


sem stret ya!!!!

png is going to the shathouse

And every year you guys want to celebrate PNG Independence Day.
They should rename it from independence to AUSAID Day.

As someone put it a long, long time ago...There are 109 Criminals in Port Moresby..Go figure!

The National government of PNG does not represent, speak or act on behalf of all good hardworking citizens of Papua New Guinea...so dis the government but leave my life loving, law abiding, fellow country men and women out of this senseless arguemnet!!!

It was interesting how Mr Somare said in Parliament that he would not sell his country for $US30 million..my question is, the how much would you sell it for? If he worded his sentence better then it would not have sounded as if he wouldnt sell his country for $US30 million but for more than that!! Any suggestions?

have you guys read 19th May 2008 newspaper????....speaker Nape gagging Opposition leaders to debate or question the matter (TAIWAN scandal)

thats clear indicaiton that person's involved are manipulating,, the QUESTION is WHY the 6.5 million people not saying or doing something??? are they all dumasses like their PM and MPs...do something, raise your concerns and views.. like national protest etc.....

common wake up PNG

Educated Papua New Guineans need to start thinking about making a positive impact as opposed to a negative one. We have some very knowledgeable people in government and the public service who can make a positive change if they all get together and start getting rid of the weak links and start employing smart, young and competent Papua New Guineans. This is definitely the road we need to take in order to get PNG on the right track..The USA is about to elect possibly their first black and youngest president..if they can do it I'm certain that most level headed Papua New Guineans will support a competent young, educated Prime Minister who has a heart for all Papua New Guineans and not just for his own native people. If we keep electing the same old "re-cycled" people then you will never see a change in the direction that the country is taking...right now theres a lot of talk about the improved economy of the country, however theres nothing to show for it..unless Somare and his fellow thieves want to do more than just sell PNG for peanuts!! Its up to the Papua New guinean people to use people power to make these Bastards do more and keep them honest!!

tru tumas,

Samare is bloodly corrupt and fckn *******...people are still re-cycling the same old rubbish bag...If PNG expects some kind of retarded brains to lead them into the new millennium- such persons like Somare and his kleptomaniacs..hahah.. I really don't think they can compete with modern knowledge(globalisation)and the vast explosion of technology and modernization..

put it this way, if you ask Somare to run against some of the past world sprinters...am pretty sure, his slack dam ass and brain would go numbed before he could run...... yet PNG will still cheer and go crazy for Somare being taking part in the Olympic sprint....again and again, PNG still nominates Somare to take part in the world athletic series after every five year pace....

PNG people(especially the sepiks-inclusively) are fcked up brains...they feed on Somare's sh*t and keep on sending him back to the Haus tambaran..
like wise to other old rubbish bags in the parliament...

corrupt *******s..

I can’t understand why you people always rubbish our country.
Somare has sacrificed his own persanol gain for our nation, why do you hate him so much, it is not by chance that he has been re-elected again and again.
He is the best leader that PNG has ever had; hopefully his legacy will live on through one of his children.
PNG is still young it could have gone to the dog’s years ago like most African nations that are ruled by dictators, PNG will never end up like this.
There are a lot of things wrong with PNG but all is not lost, with good leaders like Somare PNG will be shown the right path.

PNG Man!!!
this is for you..through your naive speech, presumablly you are lucky to have Samare as your host...feeding and sucking all the waste from his head...he will leave remorseful legacy for you....lolololo

as far as I can see, Somare does not care about you..all he dare is for his fckn kids...betterment and nourishment are all his family blessing from the gods of the house tambaran.

give no damp about those ashols...

I have never taken anything from PNG other than my birth right and the right of choice.
I am not fed by Somare or any of his cronies I work hard for a living.
Who would you replace him with anyway?
The PNG election system seems to work and being a democratic society he has been chosen as our elected leader.
You guys from up north wanted independence and now you complain, your part of the problem that has contributed to the mess.

First of all, I am not in any way, shape or form, rubbishing my Country PNG. What I will rubbish though, are the leaders and decision makers that have an impact as to how the economy is managed and how the wealth is distributed throughout the country. I know for certain that some provinces get more financial backup than others. If the government of PNG was commited to better health, schools, infrastructure and job creation for all Papua New Guineans then there would be more Papua New Guineans with a longer life span, educated and at least working to support their families. Its been the same old story year after year after year...second is that all candidates vying for the Prime Ministers job should be put under public scrutiny and their backgrounds thoroughly discussed through the media before the people of Papua New Guinea can choose who they want to lead the country. Having said all these, I truly believe that the old players in the political arena of Papua New Guinea will always use "inexperience" against the new comers just to put fear into the heads of Papua New Guineans.but its time we woke up from the fear mungering and start choosing our leaders wisely. I've always said that to be the Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea you are the Prime Minister of 20 countries...to simplify, its a hard job!

What you are talking about is a president that is elected by the people rather than a political party.
I can understand what you mean and it all well intentioned, but and until the common folk i.e. the gross roots of our nation can be educated into not taking bribes at polling booths and genuinely voting for candidates who want real democratic change, PNG will be in this loop until the next millennium.
But until then it’s my Country and current elected members are there as you can say by the choice of the people.

do all PNG people desire for development and change?????or do they just vote the corrupt kleptomaniacs for the K50- they recieved!!!!.
let me construe little bit deeply...PM and MPs are in many aspects- are dump ass mother fckers .. bounce of retarded thrash bags. they have dysfunctional and scrawny brains..no capacity of knowledge about all aspects humanitarianism, globalization,industrialization, and most of all they do not have the faculty of verbalization-fundamental knowledge to combat and defuse the vast and raging explosion of corruption, nepotism and epidemics of STD and HIV/AID.. they do know how to combat internal affairs...yet during parliament sessions, they giggle, screaming at each other and fcking each others heads....they can't discuss collaboratively; fruition agendas are not discussed, if otherwise discussed, others gag them up again...

Common, PNG wake up from your slumbers...its time now to eradicate completely these thrash bags....

PM Somare is fcking moran dick head...his got frail and aging brain..lololol dum ass..kick his ass off..do something radical.....

Roger!! Mi bilip long protest or sapos nogat ol army bai take ova briefly tasol....

Bipo mi gat bilip long Somare tasol nau mi givap long em...

PNG is going to the dog's that's where it going, did you see the front page of the Post Courier on Thursday with regards to the poverty situation that people in general are facing around the country.
I’m not sure how they are going to fix this but it took our politicians 30 odd years and were up to our necks in it and judging from the way things are going it’s going to be a 1000 years before we get out of it.
I’m not sure what the right fix is and I don’t think there is one and the politicians who have been there for the last 40 years don’t care.

What should be happening is that good hard working Papua New Guineans need to go back to their villages and make gardens, go fishing and make the trip into town to sell their surplus and return home again..that is the basis of our existence..Mind you even the white man still grows his crops and sells it to urbanised people. If anyone thinks that they can go and live in a city and get easy money then they are totally mistaken! Mind you, get your children the best education possible BUT my message is that if people planted their crops and fished in the sea, there would not be poverty in PNG because we gained independence on the basis of self reliance. Poverty only affects people who are too lazy to get off their backsides and do some hard work! That is one thing that I will give Somare credit for is helping Agriculture in PNG which is the backbone of the livelihood of our people.

Very well that somare has helped in the agricultural department, but what about the sea. I have no doupt there are illegal fishing going on in our waters by other countries, and also logging. People dont realise how important the jungle is untill its gone.

to ING.
I respect your opinion, but to subdue the land is another discourse and it is a complex and sophisticated cobweb.....why am i saying it is a sophisticated cobweb???..coz uprooting those who have already been acclimatised into living in urban centers, would either find reluctance nor have the desirabilities to go back into the villages-to live as a subsistence farmers....they have already found their comfort zone- the city life
secondly, let us consider globalisation, technologicalisation, the vast alienation of humans or I call the "mind-shifts". simply, the conceptualization of urban migration is something we could not stop...for instance, thousands of people migrating into the urban cities are so immense. people are shifting into the "presumably pastures" where they assume that, they would feed on the urban surplus. globalization is a decapitating devourer of rural inhabitants. technologicalization is another tool creeping and crippling people, it is like a gigantic magnet sucking all these people into the cities, for instance, people desire to live in lightened houses (use of electricities) ride on a motorcars,to feel the vibration of B-mobiles, chit- chat or otherwise, con little bit with few buddies in pubs and nightclubs and otherwise personal premises, the desirabilities to see the sky-scrapers and to touch and feel of the urbanized life. these are rampaging impacts on our ordinary people....and the force behind these alienation and exploitation of rural livelihood is because of ineffective decentralization of goods and services, a weak government strategies and policies. it does not matter, where people live, so long as an effective and good government exists, exploitative incarnation would not occur. we need people minded government, a government who would prioritize its citizens. a government with new leaders, not old and retarded leaders like somare and his cronies. a government very much vibrant and elegant, a government who would radicalize strong legislations to combat corruption, nepotisms and other corrupt practices. a government with energetic spirit and eager to uphold its integrity and leave behind a honorable legacy, and a government run by young leaders...

anyway, my imminent question is "Should PNG citizens watch these happening, decapitating our children, our mothers, fathers and generally our nation? Are we one day gonna unite as one to fight it all for once? radicalization to combat this corrupt government managerialism, remove the fraudulent and kleptomaniacs is something I suggest. be patriotism of what we love and pride of our nation state. PNG is in state of decaying and screwed... do somthing radical, fight the corrupt leaders, not physical but protest, public outcry, and so forth.....

I can understand to a certain degree what you are implying, but implications dont usually echo the truth. Technology, globalisation and other reasons that you have stated can never justify why a person or persons should move from his or her natural surroundings and be caught up in the so called "globalisation" of people...if people choose to live in such an environment that is high tech, industrialised and money dependant for survival then simply they must have an education and thus resulting in a job that can and will sustain them in such an environment! But what I dont get is why people will live in such environments without an education and a job? This is simply called "getting behind themselves".. infact we should be advancing in our daily lives instead of going in reverse..and the only way this can be achieved is by "getting ahead" and live in the environment that best suits our level of adaptation.

in contrary- the notion of educational viability as you have suggested is not in any differ of what I have culimitated in second last part of my earlier suggestion. I have construed that, "it does not matter what environment (rural or urban) the people live, if there are effective decentralisation of goods and servcies which would render the needs of people in both environments. I suggest that my prior knowledge of alienation of people-(migrating into the urban cities) would not be that much, at least. also my theoretical perception underlined in the earlier suggestion was that, since the government could not provide any needs and wants of these people, these people would migrate in seach of what I have denoted as "presumable green pastures". if what I am saying is still subtle, let me say this way, the remificaitions of globalisational impacts and influences (explicit inclusion of defiant economic self-reliances, denial of better infrastructures, such as better roads to sell crops, if any, at urban markets, lack of educational facilities, lack of electricities and "razoring prices" of simple necessarites like kerosine, candle and etc.. are the soaring implication of economic instabilities, the weakness of governmenatal decentralisation, and the perception of corruptionalims.
therefore, all these perception of necessarities are bombarding in peoples mind-as I suggest a "mind exploitaition" or "mind-shiftness" and eventually this would causes people to migrate in search of what they need.so my imminent question does not change in my first suggestion I have said earlier- the GOVERNMENT has to be revolutionized.
let me finally say this, if you happened to go to your village, consider what your people want in life, do they dare to work in the farms and cultivate the land? are they still using traditional clothes? are most of the people still speaking the native languages? presumably not really..thus
globalisation has one way or the other influences even most of the remotest part of human societies and we could not deny that. yet the suggestion or emphasis to cultimate the land would levitate some resistance or hesitations..
of course we can cultivate the land but we need the modern technology to fasten our workforce ethics-mechinaries in particular..so the question is, how can we afford to buy these mechinaries to cultivate the land? here we need the government's impute, if government does not support them, people turn their backs on the knowledge of cultivation and migrate to the cities.
therefore, my question still remains, we need vibrant government, a government who would decentralise better goods and services either to help people subdue the land or otherwise..no matter where we live...

back to you..

I understand that the government is not effectively empowering the rural people by using the system to equip them with what they need to be productive in their respective way of existence. However,this does not justify anyone in their own right mind, to migrate without an education or skill to be able to benefit themselves in an urban setting. Its like "taking a knife to a gun fight"..if you know what I mean..it doesnt work and thats the basis of my arguement. This is about common sense, and about "needs" as opposed to "wants" and I think that generally our people have simple needs (clothes on our backs, food in our stomachs and a roof over our heads; but there are alot of our country men and women who think that by migrating to an urban centre will make life easier but end up living with extended family members and making life harder for the one or two income earners within each household.

back to you bro..

your quotation, "....does not justify anyone in their own right mind, to migrate without an education or skill to be able to benefit themselves in an urban setting.....
INGS, let me answer this in a reflective questions, does every person, for instance, from the highlands migrating into the urban cities have had or have in one way or the other have educational qualification? if so, the totalities of life style in cities are different, thus what educational qualification they may have does not guarantee any way supportive. what about every issues we hear every day such as, criminals causing certain criminalities, vagabonds from the highlands h causing nuisance or clashes in Gordon's market and tribal clashes in other parts of all city centers, the street purveyors- reselling cheaply purchased merchandises, vendalization and all other unimaginable illegalities and troublesome behaviors in city/urban centers. Are all these ramifications and immensities of radicalizing behaviors and attitudes are the fruitions of educational attainments and workable skills with which they (migrants) have brought with, or are these the practicable skills they have learned before their migration???it is not sarcasm inquisitions or tantalizing questions but these are the factual realities in cities....

I believe that all these causes are all factualities of "common modern cultures". let me say this way, the complexities and sophisticated life style could not render the rampaging demand of urban migration and the urban surplus of every needs for individual survivability are in state of insufficiencies. let us, however, consider the Charles Darwin's theory- "Survival of the fittest. globalisation or urbanization has confiscated human conceptualization and impregnated its luring scheme of survivability-the knowledge of "who dares to live survives". so what I am saying is that, all these fearsome behaviors are all fruition based on Darwinian theory. people struggle to survive or struggle to meet the ends of their "needs"- the most fundamental concept of human survival.

therefore, it all comes back the theory of ecological perception- a person could not survive in his or her comfort zone-in their own micro-segregated environment but they have to be interrelated or intertwined in the whole spectrum of macro environment. let me say this way, a rural person could not survive without the global influence of urban influences or otherwise, he or she would also be influenced by these external forces in order for the betterment of his or her survival. and the question is how can these be manifested into their localities??, well-it all comes back to the effective decentralization of services by effective government of the day..

thus, my argument is that, it does not matter where we live,our survival is both determined by our local environments and those imported foreign influences. without neither of them, we could not meet the needs of our lives..if one end is not met, we have to search for it, for example to migrate in cities... so if government is corrupt, its people are scattered and dispersed everywhere..immage piglets without motherly guidance..

back to you

Em yupla ol Sepik na Highlands politicians that form the MAJORITY of curruption issues in PNG, that's a true fact. They together with a hand full of **** nambis leaders are leading us to destruction. On top of that, nothing will change for the better until we the ordinary and genuine people of PNG stand up and fight for a major cleanup and demand for full justice to be enforced on these mother faakers.

do not blame the crocodiles for eating your penguins, or blame their pigs for eating them..
so who knows the factuality or the "truth" about the disappearance of these penguins...no one in particular gets the definite blame, the reality is anonymous.. so do not again be gullible, naive and stereotypic... its dumbness to say something like what you are saying just like blaming the pigs and dogs for eating the penguin-no one knows the truth......

bro, where is your logicalities.....argue philosophically back to depend your naivety remarks...argue just like INGDS and Hunzmania--they are intelligently arguing their views without bluntness...

Face da facts

Your all a bunch of con artists

You wantoks just wanna rip somebody off

Fuk anybody you rekon might give you a good bang

Yupela no worry if you get AIDS

Yupela no worry if you rip somebody off

Yupela only think what you can get our of somebody

The only reason yupela in Australia is to rip Oz off!

Handy Andy

to handy andy,
hope you know what you are saying,it seems to me that, your verbalisation is prerequisit to your dumbness. your mind is full of trash... all what you can do is swear..those people who swear could not even construct a deterministic point of arguments. therefore, your evocation construes that, you are a dylexically freak roaming around.....please allow me to say this; "let others know your intelligences. highlight some arguementative suggestions.. not your hampty-dumpty or namby-pamby"...

Man you have no basis in your argument you're just using cheap parables to defend the reality and cause of corruption in PNG. The Politicians and even the public know for sure who the culprits are. It's just that none of us have the bols to speak up and do something about. Sometimes we have to hit the nail on the head about certain issues in PNG like what Anon said.

to wask..

I believe, what t.h and handy have argued is nothing contradictable....that is just the fact..blaming others rather than getting blames...typical PNG attitude... its better to blame all of us..neither you wask nor Andy or even tH are speaking the truth,,the truth always remain ananoymous..isn't that true WASK???

i dont even think that, though you may presume that, TH is using cheap metaphors, I believe that, thereality, as I have said earlier is construed or otherwise...

Okay, well at least we can establish a couple of things here: 1. That YES the need for technology and advancement in science for health purposes, education and jobs play an essential role in the decision making of rural Papua New Guineans to leave their "micro segregated environment" as you call it, and move into an urban setting. 2. That YES the decentralisation of political power, goods and services, infrustructural developments, etc is ineffective and that the National Government, Provincial Governments and local governments need to be doing more in order to let the flow of services to the rural people be more effective and reach the very people that need it most.

But you and I will definitely agree that in our country there is an urgent need for the current cycle of corruption to cease. We the present and future generations of our country need to make a stand against the corrupt governance and start MAKING OUR VOTES REALLY COUNT every election year. Somare at present has openly criticised the media and has indirectly threatened the deportation of certain executives...His main arguement is that the media doesnt report any positive advancements that the government has achieved?? But for someone who has been our first Prime minister and is the so-called "father of our nation", he doesnt take criticism very well. He should be able to take good and bad and be proactive and maybe humble himself at times of intense scruitiny. We need to find a voice! and if the media goes then who is going to ask the questions that the people of Papua New Guinea deserve to know the answers to??? I say this because the opposition is ineffective. We need to be focused on the long term issues that have been profoundly oppressed by just about every elected government we've had since independence such as . A great leader is defined by the fruitions of their decision making, total commitment to the enforcemnt of law and order, job creation and the maintenance of the highest standard of education in both the urban and rural way of life of Papua New Guinea. Wealth should not flow from the country to its leaders but from its leaders to the country.

What do you suggest would be the way forward for ordinary Papau New Guineans to break the cycle of poverty that has plagued urbanised Papua New Guineans?

Over to you..

Look just face it, the country was founded with a Con...

Somare saying how he was going to liberate you all from Australia!

Now your all prisoners of his selfishness, and your own selfishness!

Even when you come to Australia, PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT PNG - AUSTRALIANS ARE NOT STUPID - THEY KNOW A PACK OF CON ARTISTS WHEN THEY SEE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your all a pack of con artists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy

Andy, then you Aussies must be all fools for letting the 'fuzzy wuzzy' con artists in Australia... Dumbass!

ALL BLACKS TO WIN BLEDISLOE 2008!!!

KA MAU!!! HEEEEEEE!!!!

Anon, stop being a fruitcake....you don't have anything better from PNG to support your arguement that you have to use the All BLACKS which is not even your home team?!!

What a hypocrite. I'm sure there are PNG things that one is proud of that you would have used otherwise don't get involved to begin with.

This has got to be the most naive and narrow minded comment I have ever read coming froma so-called Australian..maybe you are right in the most part it takes a country founded by con-artists (Australia) to know one..check your small Australian Brain and shove it where the sun doesnt shine, because its just as worthless as you and your computer!!!

I just have one question for you?

If you are so wonderful and everything is so wonderful in PNG - then why the hell are you here?????????????????????

Andy

I'm here for exactly the same reasons that your ancestors would have come to Australia for..when this land belonged to the Aboriginals...So just dont ask anymore insignificant questions cause you are an outsider in this country just as I am..over to you!