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What Happened At Madison This Week

April 3 2003 at 10:27 AM
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Response TitleAuthorDate
   PREACHER POTPOURRI: FOLLOWING THE “URGES” OF THE SPIRIT AT MADISONDonnie CruzApr 3, 2003
    Making the spirits COME! Apr 3, 2003
    Your timing is off Donnie...Mr. BojanglesApr 4, 2003
     Re: Your timing is off Donnie (Mr. Bojangles) April 4 2003, 12:19 AMDonnie CruzApr 4, 2003
    CORRECTIONS to Post: Following THE “URGES” of the Spirit at Madison April 3 2003, 3:55 PMDonnie CruzApr 4, 2003
   THE CHANGE AGENTS ARE COMING! THE CHANGE AGENTS ARE COMING!Donnie CruzApr 15, 2003
    The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling!!Chicken LittleApr 15, 2003
     TERMINAL PLANNED PROGRAMS = CHICKEN LITTLE Apr 15, 2003
      Uh huh Apr 16, 2003
       Re: Uh huh Apr 16, 2003
       Jeremy On Target May 22, 2003
     Chicken Little or Paul Revere? Apr 16, 2003
      Shame on who?EddieApr 24, 2003
       Shame on WHOM! Apr 24, 2003
        just a little side note Apr 25, 2003
    THE CHANGE CHICKENS AIN'T ROOSTERS! Apr 15, 2003
    What Happened This Week?MemberApr 22, 2003
    Scripture for worship Aug 9, 2003
     Scripture for worship Aug 10, 2003
   MADISON CHURCH CELEBRATED CATHOLIC/PAGAN EASTER SUNDAY FESTIVAL, 4/20/03Donnie CruzApr 22, 2003
    Donnie's review of 4/20/03 serviceAnonymousApr 22, 2003
     Donnie and KenJuan ValentineApr 22, 2003
      Re: Donnie and Ken (Juan Valentine) April 22 2003, 6:00 PMDonnie CruzApr 23, 2003
      Donnie and Ken Apr 23, 2003
       Ken Strikes Out With I - Believe?John Paul George JrApr 23, 2003
        Liar, liar, SOUL'S on FIRE. Apr 24, 2003
        Ken Strikes Home! Apr 24, 2003
         Re: Ken Strikes Home!AnonymousApr 24, 2003
          Ken strikes home Apr 24, 2003
           For The Record --KenJuan ValentineApr 26, 2003
            for the record Apr 26, 2003
     Re: Donnie's review of 4/20/03 service (Anonymous) April 22 2003, 5:36 PMDonnie CruzApr 22, 2003
      Answer to Donnie re: reply to review, etc. 4/22/03AnonymousApr 24, 2003
       Enough is Enough Apr 25, 2003
        EIGHT IS [NOT] ENOUGH (Tom Brite) April 25 2003, 12:56 PMDonnie CruzApr 25, 2003
         Then HOW ABOUT 9? Apr 25, 2003
    What Happened April 20, 2003 Apr 22, 2003
    AFTER … THE EASTER SUNDAY FESTIVAL AT THE MADISON CHURCH: 4/27/03Donnie CruzApr 30, 2003
     Tapes are available Apr 30, 2003
      Re: Tapes are available (April 30 2003, 7:09 PM)Donnie CruzMay 1, 2003
       Re:Tapes May 2, 2003
     After Ishtar Apr 30, 2003
   AT MADISON: IS IT “IMPROVING WORSHIP” OR “CHANGING TO MEDIA-DRIVEN WORSHIP”? (05.04.03)Donnie CruzMay 6, 2003
    Correction to: … IS IT “IMPROVING WORSHIP” OR “CHANGING TO MEDIA-DRIVEN WORSHIP”? (5.4.03)Donnie CruzMay 7, 2003
    More: IS IT “IMPROVING WORSHIP” OR “CHANGING TO MEDIA-DRIVEN WORSHIP”? (5.4.03)Donnie CruzMay 11, 2003
    More: IS IT “IMPROVING WORSHIP” OR “CHANGING TO MEDIA-DRIVEN WORSHIP”? (5.4.03)Donnie CruzMay 12, 2003
    “BECAUSE MADISON CHURCH OF CHRIST IS NOW INCORPORATED”Donnie CruzMay 12, 2003
     Re: “BECAUSE MADISON CHURCH OF CHRIST IS NOW INCORPORATED” May 12 2003, 5:10 PMDonnie CruzMay 14, 2003
      Sympathy To Donnie:AnonymousMay 15, 2003
       My empathy with AnnieDonnie CruzMay 15, 2003
    BAPTISTS IN THE BALCONY: ALIENATED OR “EXCOMMUNICATED”?Donnie CruzMay 17, 2003
     About the preaching. May 19, 2003
      Actually... May 19, 2003
       Re: Actually... (Jeremy) May 19 2003, 1:18Donnie CruzMay 20, 2003
        Re: Re: Actually... (Jeremy) May 19 2003, 1:18MichaelMay 20, 2003
         Re: Re: Re: Actually... (Michael) May 20 2003, 9:53 AMDonnie CruzMay 20, 2003
      Re: About the preaching (by Chris) May 19 2003, 9:39 AMDonnie CruzMay 19, 2003
    THE COMMUNION: “He Knows My Name” KEVIN SINGS VERSE, PRAISE TEAM SINGS CHORUSDonnie CruzMay 20, 2003
     I must've missed something here May 20, 2003
      Re: I must've missed something here (Jeremy) May 20 2003, 2:02 PMDonnie CruzMay 21, 2003
       Just a thought on your Easter responePhilMay 21, 2003
        Re: Just a thought on your Easter response (Phil) May 21 2003, 4:44 PMDonnie CruzMay 22, 2003
        Birthdays and anniversaries? May 25, 2003
         Re: Just a thought May 26, 2003
          Ooop'sEddieMay 27, 2003
          Re: Just a thought May 28, 2003
         Birthdays May 27, 2003
   SERMON ON 5/25/03: LIBERALISM IN THE CHURCH (… OF CHRIST AT MADISON)Donnie CruzMay 27, 2003
    Sunday Sermon at Madison 5/25/03Esther G.May 27, 2003
     Your WRONG60 Piece OrchestraMay 27, 2003
      Your responces is SAD. May 28, 2003
       The reasonEx-PosterJun 2, 2003
        Re: The reason (Ex-Poster) June 2 2003, 10:12 PMDonnie CruzJun 3, 2003
        ????Religious Pornography???? Jun 4, 2003
         Porn??? Jun 4, 2003
         religious HISTORICAL FACTS Jun 5, 2003
      Re: You’re WRONG (60 Piece Orchestra) May 27 2003, 10:45 PMDonnie CruzMay 28, 2003
     Re: Sunday Sermon at Madison 5/25/03 (Esther G.) May 27 2003, 2:52 PMDonnie CruzMay 28, 2003
    SPEAKING OF “UNITY IN DIVERSITY”Donnie CruzMay 30, 2003
    THE MADISON CHURCH: “UNITY IN DIVERSITY” AT WORK?Donnie CruzJun 5, 2003
    MADISON CHURCH ELDER: “Broadway Resigns From Eldership”Donnie CruzJun 10, 2003
    NO “Agnus Dei” SACRAMENTAL IN THE EARLY CHURCHDonnie CruzJun 12, 2003
     stop taking things out of context Jun 12, 2003
      Re: stop taking things out of contextConcernedMembersJun 12, 2003
       GIVE ME A BREAK!!!JDJun 17, 2003
      Re: stop taking things out of context (Jeremy says) June 12 2003, 3:10 PMDonnie CruzJun 12, 2003
      Re: stop taking things out of context (Jeremy says) June 12 2003, 3:10 PMDonnie CruzJun 13, 2003
     Re: NO “Agnus Dei” SACRAMENTAL IN THE EARLY CHURCHAnonymousJun 12, 2003
     No WAX god replace LOGOS Jun 13, 2003
      Re: No WAX god replace LOGOS (Ken Sublett) June 13 2003, 5:34 PMDonnie CruzJun 16, 2003
       kicks the horse, notices it's dead, kicks again for some reason Jun 16, 2003
        Kick the Trojan horse: Enemy Inside Jun 17, 2003
         Re: GIVE ME A BREAK!!! (JD) June 17 2003, 12:46 AMDonnie CruzJun 17, 2003
        Re: Alive and Still “Kicking” (Jeremy) June 16 2003, 6:28 PMDonnie CruzJun 17, 2003
     THE “DEPARTED SAINTS” (BOTH LIVING AND DEAD) FROM THE MADISON CHURCHDonnie CruzJun 19, 2003
     RHYTHMICAL HANDCLAPPING EXERCISE IN MADISON’S MUSICAL WORSHIP: 6/22/03Donnie CruzJun 25, 2003
     “WHAT MAKES A GREAT CHURCH” OR “WHAT MAKES A FAITHFUL CHURCH” –- WHICH? Jul 5, 2003
      Great Church Jul 5, 2003
      I LOVE TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE (CLAP, CLAP); IT’S ALRIGHT (CLAP, CLAP, CLAP) Jul 8, 2003
       VOCABULARY OF CHANGE AGENTS (IN PART) Jul 9, 2003
        VOCABULARY OF CHANGE AGENTS (BY JOHN WADDEY) -- CONTINUED Jul 10, 2003
         Vocabulary Jul 10, 2003
          Who will be there?Chuck SonnJul 12, 2003
           Who will be there Jul 12, 2003
            we were there Jul 14, 2003
             we were there Jul 14, 2003
            Where's the beef?CuriousAug 16, 2003
           Re: Who will be there? (Chuck Sonn) July 12 2003, 7:16 PM Jul 14, 2003
            the measureChuck SonnJul 14, 2003
             Direction of this threadEsther G.Jul 15, 2003
             Evangelical Tabernacle of the Heavenly Redemption Story of the Angelic Host from on High Jul 15, 2003
              All the paths that count.Chuck SonnJul 15, 2003
               “ALL THE RIGHT MOVES” … NOT! Jul 16, 2003
                ObsessionChuck SonnJul 18, 2003
                 Re: Obsession (Chuck Sonn) … with the Truth July 18 2003, 12:58 AM Jul 18, 2003
   MADISON’S WORSHIP LEADER’S CHARISMATIC TALENT: “VICTORY CHANT” AGAIN ON SUNDAY, 7/13/03 Jul 17, 2003
    Chucks Dionysus lulav Jul 18, 2003
    Victory Chant Jul 19, 2003
    QuestionChadJul 19, 2003
     But Insky Jul 20, 2003
      Response to KenChadJul 21, 2003
       Response to Numbers 21 Jul 29, 2003
      Addendum to KenChadJul 22, 2003
     Chad’s Question[s] July 19 2003, 6:49 PM Jul 21, 2003
      Response to DonnieChadJul 22, 2003
       Chad’s Questions Revisited and Follow-Up Comments Jul 25, 2003
      QUESTION: HYMNBOOK IN SCRIPTURE THAT REQUIRES SHAPE NOTES? Jul 22, 2003
       Response to DonnieChadJul 24, 2003
    I'm So SorryMs. XJul 24, 2003
     Re: I'm So Sorry (Ms. X) July 24 2003, 5:11 PM Jul 26, 2003
      Response to DonnieChadJul 26, 2003
       Questons about OT passages Jul 28, 2003
       WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERATE; WHY FOCUS ON “MUSICAL” WORSHIP? Jul 29, 2003
    IS IT MORE PSALMODY AND PSALTERY AND LESS NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIANITY? Aug 3, 2003
     WHAT IS A “FORMERLY STRONG BIBLE-BELIEVING” CHURCH? Aug 4, 2003
      Re: WHAT IS A “FORMERLY STRONG BIBLE-BELIEVING” CHURCH?ChadAug 5, 2003
       Re: WHAT IS A “FORMERLY STRONG BIBLE-BELIEVING” CHURCH? August 5 2003, 1:17 AM Aug 6, 2003
       Re: Music (Chad) July 31 2003, 1:04 PM Aug 6, 2003
        Response to DonnieChadAug 7, 2003
         Instrumental Music not a Salvation Issue???Mark WaggonerAug 8, 2003
         Re: Response to DonnieTomAug 8, 2003
          To the Unknown ModeratorTomAug 9, 2003
           To the Unknown Tom August 9 2003, 12:34 PM Aug 10, 2003
            Re: To the Unknown Tom August 9 2003, 12:34 PMTomAug 10, 2003
          Welcome, Tom! Aug 10, 2003
         Taking the Lord’s Supper While Taking “Notes Used to Foment Discord” Aug 9, 2003
      WHAT IS A “FORMERLY STRONG BIBLE-BELIEVING” CHURCH? -- Continued Aug 5, 2003
     BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES OF CHURCH SINGING Aug 8, 2003
      Biblical Principles Aug 9, 2003
   Now You See (Hear) It, Now You Don’t: Lessons in Sleight of the WORSHIP LEADER’S Hand Aug 11, 2003
   Re: Scripture for worship (Cindy Hanson) August 9 2003, 7:54 PM Aug 13, 2003
   Donnie says: “I Am Not Alone Anymore—Also Curious” Aug 18, 2003
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Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.

Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.

The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan. Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books, seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....

At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

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Here is the list of players;

5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
 

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