Place your banner ad here.          See all banner ads

|| ConcernedMembers.com || About || Links Library || Help Warn Others ||
|| Madison Church of Christ || Richland Hills Church of Christ || Hillcrest Church of Christ || More Churches || Sunday School in Exile ||

Where is my NewThisWeek Email subscription?Click Here

Place your text ad here.           See all text ads

 Return to Index  

Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps

June 11 2012 at 3:32 AM
  (no login)
from IP address 174.50.253.151

The expression "having cymbals and psalteries and harps" is not a pattern for Christian worship: it is defined as the worship of Apollo (abaddon, Apollyon) and Dionysus first outed at Mount Sinai. If God turned them over to worship the starry host, and scholars agree that the Jews worshipped the starry host on their way back to Babylon, why do you suppose that latter day elders fulfil the warning of Paul against wolves and violently impose the same patternism: Who knows? both the Shadow and any Bible student knows.

http://www.piney.com/Having.Cymbals.and.Psalteries.and.html



Original Message:






Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"


Last month the elders announced Madison's new "vision" that approves the use of instrumental music. If someone wrote about this I didn't see it.

They said that using instruments is not a "salvation issue". Both services will use acappella music for now, but the first service will now get a praise team like the second service. And the second service will have more creative worship.

But the youth group gets to start using instrumental music. They said light acoustical instruments.

This seems like a huge change so I was surprised not to see it here yet.




_________________________

NOTE:The information above has been submitted anonymously. Meanwhile, we have opted to substitute "Concerned" for "Anonymous" as the name. The message remains unedited.
-----------------------

We've heard from the author who is a long-time member of Madison and would like to be identified as "MCC-Torn" [... and appropriately so].


    
This message has been edited by Donnie.Cruz from IP address 99.177.249.211 on Jun 29, 2012 8:05 AM
This message has been edited by Donnie.Cruz from IP address 99.177.249.211 on Jun 27, 2012 3:49 AM
This message has been edited by Ken.Sublett from IP address 166.248.141.160 on Jun 25, 2012 8:09 PM
This message has been edited by Donnie.Cruz from IP address 99.177.249.211 on Jun 13, 2012 1:15 PM


 
 Respond to this message   
Response TitleAuthorDate
 What Has Happened to Madison? Jun 13, 2012
  Madison's Conflict Reflects Broader Issues Jun 13, 2012
  Life Looking Up at Madison, Minister Says Jun 13, 2012
  Re: What Has Happened to Madison? Sep 5, 2012
  InstrumentsDarwinianNov 5, 2012
   Re: Instruments Nov 5, 2012
    Re: InstrumentsAnonymousNov 8, 2012
     Re: InstrumentsBNov 8, 2012
      Re: Instruments Nov 8, 2012
   Re: InstrumentsBNov 6, 2012
    Re: Instruments Nov 6, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Jun 13, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"BJun 13, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Jun 13, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Jun 28, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"BJun 28, 2012
 "Salvation Issue"BJun 13, 2012
 Rejoice and be glad! Jun 13, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"BJun 14, 2012
  Returning to the Dark Ages Jun 14, 2012
   Re: Returning to the Dark Ages Jun 14, 2012
  Risky Business: "It Is Not a Salvation Issue" Jun 14, 2012
   Re: Risky Business: "It Is Not a Salvation Issue"AnonymousJun 14, 2012
    Re: Risky Business: "It Is Not a Salvation Issue" Jun 14, 2012
     Re: Risky Business: "It Is Not a Salvation Issue"BJun 14, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"BJun 14, 2012
 Musicators WILL NOT--CAN NOT read the Word of a Holy God Jun 14, 2012
  Gods wisdom Jun 14, 2012
   Re: Gods wisdom Jun 17, 2012
 So RightBJun 17, 2012
  Re: So Right Jun 17, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Jun 24, 2012
 Speaking in tongues (lauguages) excludes singing in tongue. Jun 24, 2012
 The PREDESTINATED Mark Jun 25, 2012
  Re: The PREDESTINATED MarkRacnorJun 25, 2012
   Re: The PREDESTINATED Mark Jun 25, 2012
    Cymbals, Psalteries and Harps 2 Chronicles 5 Jun 25, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Jun 25, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsTom BriteJun 26, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Jun 26, 2012
    Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsRacnorJun 26, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision" Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBJun 26, 2012
    step process Jun 27, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Jun 27, 2012
 The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryDonnieAug 21, 2012
  Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryGossip Is SinAug 22, 2012
   Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 23, 2012
    Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryRacnorAug 23, 2012
     Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 23, 2012
      Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryRacnorAug 24, 2012
   Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryDonnie CruzAug 23, 2012
    Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 23, 2012
    Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryGossip Is SinAug 23, 2012
     Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 23, 2012
     Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" Story Aug 23, 2012
     Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 24, 2012
      Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryRacnorAug 25, 2012
       Change Agents' Technique: "Boiling the Frog" Slowly Aug 25, 2012
       Re: The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" StoryBAug 25, 2012
 The Mark of the Beast Aug 23, 2012
 You Call ItAnonymous (Dave)Aug 24, 2012
  A "tradition" of chasing people awayMCC-TornAug 27, 2012
   Re: A "tradition" of chasing people away Aug 27, 2012
    "Just your tradition" may be the most divisive, damnable lie ever told based on numbers. Aug 28, 2012
   Re: A "tradition" of chasing people awayJimmyJoeSep 2, 2012
 The HISTORIC and UNIVERSAL persona of Religious Performers: Hypocrites says Jesus. Aug 30, 2012
  Bootlegging the BootleggersRacnorAug 30, 2012
   Re: Bootlegging the Bootleggers Aug 30, 2012
    Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersRacnorAug 31, 2012
     Speaking and singingScriptureAug 31, 2012
     Speaking and singingScriptureAug 31, 2012
     Singing and PreachingScriptureAug 31, 2012
   Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersBAug 31, 2012
    Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersRacnorSep 1, 2012
     Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersBSep 1, 2012
      Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersBSep 1, 2012
       Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersRacnorSep 1, 2012
        Re: Bootlegging the BootleggersBSep 1, 2012
        Explain these versesScriptureSep 1, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Aug 31, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Aug 31, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 1, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 1, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 2, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 3, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsRacnorSep 3, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 3, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 3, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBSep 3, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 3, 2012
  David was the secular Type: Jesus was the Spiritual Antitype Sep 3, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBSep 3, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsRacnorSep 4, 2012
  Dave Fields' Role Model -- Nudist, Instrumental Music Lover, Dancer Sep 3, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 4, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 4, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBSep 4, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 4, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 4, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 4, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBSep 5, 2012
   David, a Contradiction, but better than SolomonScriptureSep 5, 2012
    Re: David, a Contradiction, but better than Solomon Sep 5, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 5, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 5, 2012
    Monarchy and the Christian KingdomScriptureSep 5, 2012
     Re: Monarchy and the Christian Kingdom Sep 5, 2012
      Re: Monarchy and the Christian KingdomRacnorSep 5, 2012
       Re: Monarchy and the Christian Kingdom Sep 5, 2012
   Neither do it condemn you [now]ScriptureSep 5, 2012
    Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]BSep 5, 2012
     Re: Neither do it condemn you [now] Sep 5, 2012
     Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]RacnorSep 5, 2012
      Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]BSep 5, 2012
       Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]RacnorSep 5, 2012
        Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]BSep 5, 2012
         Re: Neither do it condemn you [now]RacnorSep 5, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousSep 5, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBSep 5, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 5, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 5, 2012
   2 Timothy 3 part TWO as PAGAN THESIS Sep 5, 2012
    2 Timothy the CHRISTIAN ANTITHESIS Part 3 Sep 5, 2012
 Madison Continues to Embrace the Community Church Movement Sep 10, 2012
  Re: Madison Continues to Embrace the Community Church Movement Sep 10, 2012
 Rick Warren is NOT the Foundation for Bible Study Sep 10, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 13, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 13, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Sep 14, 2012
 "Worship Leader"--->"Praise Team"--->"Instrumental Music"---> Oct 15, 2012
  Re: "Worship Leader"--->"Praise Team"--->"Instrumental Music"--- Oct 15, 2012
  Placing a rod in the spokes of a bicycleScriptureOct 15, 2012
   Re: Placing a rod in the spokes of a bicycle Oct 15, 2012
  Attendance update at MadisonScriptureOct 23, 2012
   Re: Attendance update at Madison Oct 23, 2012
    Re: Attendance update at MadisonTom BriteOct 23, 2012
     Neighborhood ChangeScriptureOct 23, 2012
      Re: Neighborhood Change Oct 23, 2012
       Worship MachinesScriptureOct 23, 2012
      Another CompetitorScriptureOct 23, 2012
     Changing NeighborhoodScriptureOct 23, 2012
     Re: Attendance update at MadisonBOct 23, 2012
    Counts of AttendanceScriptureOct 23, 2012
     Re: Counts of Attendance Oct 23, 2012
 Anything that obscures the word is CLOWNISH Oct 26, 2012
  Consider the Revelation letter Oct 28, 2012
   Saddleback off the saddle?ScriptureOct 29, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousOct 30, 2012
  "I have prayed for the elders at Madison and...."Donnie CruzOct 30, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBOct 30, 2012
 David NEVER wrote worship songs NEVER led the SANGING Nov 8, 2012
 First Samuel Chapter eight: you know, that one the scholars missed Nov 8, 2012
  Influence toward a KingScriptureNov 8, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsAnonymousNov 9, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBNov 9, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Nov 9, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Nov 9, 2012
 From: "Worship Leader" [...] To: Instrumental Music Nov 11, 2012
  Attendance update at MadisonScriptureNov 12, 2012
   2. "'Innovative' Acts on the Stage" Nov 12, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Nov 12, 2012
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsRockyDec 26, 2012
   Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBDec 26, 2012
    Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsRockyDec 28, 2012
     Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, HarpsBDec 28, 2012
     The Glories of ChristianityScriptureDec 28, 2012
      Re: The Glories of ChristianityBDec 28, 2012
       Re: The Glories of Christianity Dec 28, 2012
   The Agape Dec 26, 2012
 + Special Announcements in 2012 and Attendance Dec 26, 2012
  DeclineScriptureDec 26, 2012
   Decline in AttendanceScriptureDec 27, 2012
    Re: Decline in AttendanceBDec 27, 2012
    Attendance update at MadisonScriptureDec 27, 2012
     Re: Attendance update at Madison Dec 28, 2012
      Re: Attendance update at Madison Dec 28, 2012
       Re: Attendance update at MadisonAnonymousDec 28, 2012
        Philosophy behing the DeclineScriptureDec 29, 2012
         Re: Philosophy behing the Decline Dec 29, 2012
          Feed the SheepScriptureDec 29, 2012
         Re Philosophy behind the Decline Dec 30, 2012
          Response to WilliamScriptureDec 31, 2012
           Re: Response to William Dec 31, 2012
          Re: Re Philosophy behind the Decline Dec 31, 2012
           Re Philosophy behind the Decline Dec 31, 2012
            Some causes for declineScriptureDec 31, 2012
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Jan 21, 2013
  Madison and the Stone Campbell Unity Confession Feb 15, 2013
   THE MARK OF THE BEAST Feb 15, 2013
    Re: THE MARK OF THE BEASTSeriousFeb 16, 2013
     The Beast Is GoneConcernedMembersFeb 16, 2013
      What is serious Feb 19, 2013
       Re: What is serious Feb 19, 2013
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps Feb 19, 2013
 Weekly Attendance in the Spring May 13, 2013
  CorrosionScriptureMay 13, 2013
   Re: Corrosion May 13, 2013
   Re: CorrosionDonnie CruzMay 13, 2013
  Re: Weekly Attendance in the Spring May 13, 2013
 Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps May 13, 2013
  Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps May 13, 2013
   Re: Weekly Attendance in the SpringDonnie CruzMay 13, 2013
 Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013) May 22, 2013
  Re: Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013) May 22, 2013
   Re: Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013) May 22, 2013
    Re: Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013) May 22, 2013
     Re: Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013) May 22, 2013
    Re: Turning Mourning into Dancing at Madison (5/19/2013)Tom BriteMay 22, 2013
     Thou Hast Turned my Mourning into Dancing May 22, 2013
 They have turned (perverted) Jesus' mourning into Musical Mocking May 23, 2013
  Re: They have turned (perverted) Jesus' mourning into Musical Mocking May 24, 2013
   Re: They have turned (perverted) Jesus' mourning into Musical Mocking May 24, 2013
Place your text ad here.           See all text ads

This web site is not part of or approved by any Church!

...........................THE BOOK

What Happened at the Madison Church of Christ?


There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.

This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least you will recognize the signs early on.

Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.

Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.

The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan. Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books, seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....

At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill in some of the timeline.

To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the background materials in the first of the book.

This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our web site; http://www.concernedmembers.com/madison

Here is the list of players;

5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
 

Click Here......The Book is Available Now FREE

Place your banner ad here.           See all banner ads

...ConcernedMembers.com ...About ...Links Library ...Sunday School in Exile ...Help Warn Others


FastCounter by bCentral