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  • Read the whole Bible (RE: to Yogi)
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      Posted Jun 10, 2003 10:22 AM

      The Bible says, "Jesus said unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

      What does it apply to? Being Gay, Being Nice, Merciful, loving . . .?

      You don't understand what Jesus is condoning because the whole of the matter is not being considered. That is the same with the issues that those on the "left" and "right" don't understand. We must consider all the Bible when considering a single verse.

      For Example: The Thief on the cross. How was he saved. By faith, yes. By expression of his belief that Jesus was the Son of God, Yes. Was he saved at the point that Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise, yes. Was he saved without baptism? Ah ha!! you can't anwer that because you do not know his background. How did he know who Christ was?

      Last Question, Does it matter if he was saved by his expression of faith to Jesus? No!!!!

      The Theif on the cross lived and was granted pardon under the Mosaic despensation. Jesus lived a life of a Jew. He corrected morality for all time, but he lived a Jewish life. he sacrifice animals as was commanded by Moses. He offered contribution (tithes) even though He was very poor. He did everything that a Jew had to do and did it perfectly. Then he died.

      The thief is not an example of how to be saved today because he did not live in our or under our Christian Despensational law. Many who are proponents of "progressive" things in the Church are simply uninformed of the acceptable way of worship that God wants today. That or else they know it and change it anyway. But I may give most the benifit of the doubt.

      Total context does necessarily mean just read the whole verse, or even the whole chapter, or even the whole book, but it means reading all that God had to say concerning said topic and coming to a conclusion based on those things.

      We are saved by faith. yes
      We are saved by faith only. No

      The difference is that you will give the second answer if you have taken into account James, Hebrews and other places in with faith is described (by its application) to be belief plus the action that results.

      please consider this and rethink your objections to the arguments offered on this site.

      Thanks
      Chris Eubanks
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    What Happened at the Madison Church of Christ?


    There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.

    This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least you will recognize the signs early on.

    Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
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    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

    It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

    At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

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    At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

    Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

    The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

    The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

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    10 Not so Godly Elders
    120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
    2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
    2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
    Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
    Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
     

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