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  • Well... I'm back, lol
    • Dustin B. (no login)
      Posted Oct 24, 2004 12:25 AM

      I'm back! I didn't think I would be, but I have some things to lay down on the table or I'll feel like I didn't do my duty as a Christian.

      Jesus discounted the flesh and said MY WORDS are SPIRIT and they are LIFE. The Words of Christ the Spirit simply will not "stick" or reside in A human spirit which is not HOLY or undefiled. In the Old Testament God promised to give US a NEW, HOLY SPIRIT and the purpose was so that we would keep His commands.

      Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

      Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.


      If a divine being cannot reside in Flesh, then the two above statements are stating that Jesus himself is not Divine since he said he will reside in us. He said he will reside in us through the Use of the Holy Spirit:

      Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
      Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
      Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.


      The purpose for remission of sins is that God can WASH our HUMAN spirit so that it becomes A holy spirit. It is OUR spirits which hold the SINS and it is OUR spirit which needs to be purged to make IT holy:

      Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

      In all of these, Spirit and Holy Ghost are capitalized.

      I would like to finish with a couple other verses:

      Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

      Spirit is Capitalized and it is "of God", not "of us".

      1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

      Notice that it states that it is a he not an it. It also says it has a will. Spirit is capitalized.

      1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

      The same spirit spoke of in Acts which reveals things to us is spoken of here, and it is referred to as "his Spirit" and also it is "the Spirit" that searcheth all things, the deep things of God. It is God's spirit, the Holy Spirit, not ours.

      1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

      It doesn't get any clearer there. THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN US. In our dirty temple.

      Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
      Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.


      Lie to the Holy Ghost is a lie to God. Not to our spirit, not to us.

      Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,"

      There are three things we are to baptize people in the name of: The Father, the son, AND the Holy Spirit.

      2 Cor. 13:14, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all."

      Again, the Holy Spirit is mentioned. How can the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with us all if the "holy spirit" is only our own spirits cleansed?

      Rom. 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." See also Gen. 1:2

      The Spirit of God dwells in YOU. The Spirit is a divine spirit, not our own cleansed spirit.

      Matt. 10:10, "For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."

      The Spirit of the Father IN US.

      Rom. 8:11, "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you."
      John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."
      1 John 5:7, "And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth."


      There ARE instances where we are told "spirit" and not "THE SPIRIT". Above, you have an example of both "spirit" and "THE SPIRIT".

      Rom. 8:27, "and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God."

      The Holy Spirit is stated to having a mind. It is also referred to as "He".

      1 Cor. 2:11, "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God."

      Here is mentioned both the spirit of man, our spirit, and the spirit of God. They are clearly two different entities.

      Acts 2:4, "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance."

      It says THE Spirit, not their spirits.

      However, make no mistake. There is only ONE God. He exists in three persons mentioned through the entirity of the holy scriptures. A good analagy I've heard used is Time. Time is made up of past, present and future but there are not three times, only one.



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