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  • Re: Hymnal vs. Projector
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted Dec 17, 2004 11:24 AM


      There's a Stirring

      There's a stirring deep within ME
      Could it be MY time has come?
      When I see MY gracious Savior
      face to FACE when all is done.

      Is that His voice I am HEARING?
      "Come away MY precious one"
      Is He calling ME?
      Is He calling ME?

      I will rise up, I'll rise up
      Then I'll bow down, lay MYcrown,
      at His precious, wounded feet.

      NO! that is when we GET our crown: that is the CORINTHIAN problem where they thought that they were KINGS now!

      I will rise up, rise up
      Then I'll bow down, lay MY crown,
      at His precious, wounded feet.

      There's a STIRRING deep within ME.

      STIRRING is what Paul outlawed as PLEASURING in Romans 15 SO THAT we can speak "that which is written" with one MOUTH and one MIND as the only way to GLORIFY God in Christ.

      The METHOD IS ODEING which means to excite emotion.

      The PURPOSE is called HERESY "using music to LIFT ONE UP to cut their throat as in the sacrificial systems or to TAKE ONE AWAY for one's OWN USE. STIRRING is:

      kine├┤ Hermes [false Logos] leading the souls, of a warrior about to attack, 2. remove a thing from its place, meddle with things sacred, disturb, of a wasps'nest, having driven him in headlong flight, incite or stir one up to speak, 2. of persons, to be moved, stirred, ho

      kekinêmenos one who is agitated, excited, 3. of dancing, 5. to be disturbed or in rebellion,

      That is what YOU are doing to DONNIE except he refuses to be AROUSED or LIFTED UP which meant "to lift one up to cut their throat."

      It is NOT about ME and my AROUSED feelings. When FALSE TEACHERS see the WORD being lifted up they, quick as a bunny,

      Ac.17:13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.

      Stirred here is:

      Saleuo (g4531) sal-yoo'-o; from 4535; to waver, i.e. agitate, rock, topple or (by impl.) destroy; fig. to disturb, incite: - move, shake (together), which can [-not] be shaken, stir up.

      It matters NOT IN THE LEAST whether the TREMBLING is created with a human TEAM or a brass tube:

      Salpiqc (g4536) sal'-pinx; perh. from 4535 (through the idea of quavering or reverberation): a trumpet: - trump (- et).

      GOD may be LIFTING you up to CARRY YOU AWAY:

      Heb.12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

      Heb.12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken [stirred], as of things that are MADE, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

      Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which CANNOT be MOVED, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with REVERENCE and godly FEAR. Remember Nadab and Abihu which the STIRRERS love to make fun of? Well, here is what Paul thinks of them.

      Heb 12:29


      This STIRRING is trembling for the wrath comming upon the DELIBERATE SOWERS OF DISCORD as they play with themselves. Jesus provided the example of not PLEASURING or "stirring up" Himself of those who WORSHIPPED Him by listenng to what HE had to teach them. Paul issued a direct command in Romans 15, Eph 5 and Col 3. Not getting DRUNK to stir yourself to singing also meant 'INTOXICATED ON PASSION AND PRIDE.' The totality of church history either OBEYED that direct command or CONFESSED the command when they allowed the PROFESSIONALS to play processionals or interludes but NOT to accompany congregational singing.

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