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  • Bill has some great points.
    • Gary Cole (no login)
      Posted Mar 21, 2005 9:12 PM

      Now I believe it was my subconscious telling me that what I was doing was just plain wrong. After further biblical study, I became firm in my conviction that the purest worship is that with the least distractions, and by distractions I mean choirs, soloists, instruments, drama, and all forms of entertainers. Worship must be an active process, not passive as when a congregation sits back and watches passively as someone supposedly "brings them into the presence of God" with a musical number. No one can worship for you. You must do it yourself, whether it be in your closet or together with a congregation. By having musical instrumetns and musical performers, we run the risk too often of being caught up in the "talent" of the performers and lose sight of Him Whom we worship. It's much safer to remove all potential obstacles.

      Bill,

      I was raised in Jerusalem (That's Nashville to you COC members). Being a product of a Church of Christ education from elementary to college and learning piano in college I was a bit confused about learning to play songs of worship at David Lipscomb but not being able to worship with the instrument.

      I am still holding on as a member and I hope to create some changes Not Apostacy.

      The real problem for many members of the COC is they would never dream of worshiping in another church and because of what we believe concerning baptism there is a little bit of an attitude. I've allowed my children to experience Presb, Method, Bapt, Christian, etc... and we have had great discussions about the differences. Like no baptistry! That really freaked them out.

      Worship is an active process but unfortunately the only ones really acting in it at churches where the music is so great are mostly the "Worship Teams". I'm not against some of the new praise teams but I'm not crazy about the drama and the music so loud I can't hear the voices of my brothers and sisters let alone my kids. There needs to be a place where this can be resolved. If you have a band it should probably be off to the side and there really is no need for solo's, choirs, or lots of drama. It doesn't need to be boring but it most certainly shouldn't be entertaining and a minister could occassionally wear a coat and tie without appearing stuffy.

      It is amazing how many people would dress for a formal dinner with the President but not for GOD.

      Things need to remain in a decently orderly fashion but that can be changed around if there is a point to it. All in all I prefer no instruments unless it is in a rural Church of Christ where the thunderous sound is the performing preacher and the overly loud is the Song Leader belting out the melody. The true issue is that many of the COC members truly believe that what others are doing is not scriptural and it will affect their salvation. Its the usual Legalistic OT "Strang Fire" teaching.

      GC




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