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  • Cornelius: Spirit of WIND and Spirit of BURNING.
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted May 21, 2005 7:33 PM

      Both the Thief on the Cross and Cornelius are used as EXCEPTIONS to the rule about baptism. The false teacher's conclusion is that what Jesus, Peter, Paul and most of church history said about baptism is just a big lie.

      However, we have noted for Max Lucado's benefit, that the thief was crucified on a cross FOR HIS OWN SINS.

      Next, we are faced with HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM and the satement that the Gentiles were PURIFIED BY FAITH. What the Phds don't grasp is that THE LAW is contrasted with THE FAITH. There is never any discussion of

      Faith as a one step PATTERNISM for salvation and
      Faith which obeys as bringing salvation.

      God in Christ declared that ALL PEOPLE are justified or made CEREMONIALLY ACCEPTABLE by the Cross of Christ.

      Are you sure that you want to trust the PURIFICATION which applied both to Cornelius and PIGS for your salvation? Do you want to TRUMP the very direct command of Jesus? Cornelius did not trust any "embracing" of the Spirit he wanted to know what GOD IN CHRIST had commanded PETER to do. The Cornelius example is NOT AN EXCEPTION and we know that in the words of Cornelius. Of Peter,
      And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, Acts 10:10

      And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Acts 10:11

      • Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. Acts 10:12

      And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. Acts 10:13

      But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. Acts 10:14
      Koinos or "shared by the common" people and therefore defined: not PURIFIED. UNCLEAN is:
      Akathartos (g169) ak-ath'-ar-tos; from 1 (as a neg. particle) and a presumed der. of 2508 (mean. cleansed); impure (cer., mor. [lewd] or spec. [doemonic]): - foul, unclean.

      And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. Acts 10:15

      • Katharizo (g2511) kath-ar-id'-zo; to cleanse (lit. or fig.): - (make) clean (-se), purge, purify.

      This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven. Acts 10:16
      Later, after Peter had been CONVINCED that pigs and Cornelius HATH been PURIFIED:
      And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. Acts 10:25
      Notice that Cornelius HATH BEEN PURIFIED or Peter would not have TOUCHED him, would not have gone into the house and would NOT have preached the SAME Gospel Jesus Commanded Peter to preach to ALL NATIONS.
      But (1) Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. Acts 10:26

      And as (2) he talked with him, (3) he went in, and found many that were come together. Acts 10:27

      And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Acts 10:28

      ALL of the Gentiles, whether they believed or not HATH BEEN PURIFIED by God's declaration. That means that they are ceremonially clean and the Jews can preach to them and baptize them.

      All Gentiles, whether embraced by the Spirit which, amazingly, produced WORDS, HATH BEEN PURIFIED.

      When this was settled, Peter asked why he was sent for and Cornelius said:
      Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God. Acts 10:33
      Cornelius wanted to hear what God had commanded PETER since he already knew about the baptism of John.
      Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: Acts 10:34

      But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. Acts 10:35

      • The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: ( he is Lord of all:) Acts 10:36

      That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Acts 10:37

      And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. Acts 10:42

      • To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Acts 10:43
      All who believe in Jesus shall receive remission of sins. But only those who live righteously either JEW or GENTILE is saved by the same FAITH.

      What did Jesus command the Apostles regarding the GENTILES: This was the question of Cornelius:
      And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matt 28:18

      Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
      baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matt 28:19

      Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:20

      Cornelius was not PURIFIED instantly when he BELIEVED. Cornelius was PURE by the sovereign act of GOD IN CHRIST. He was PURIFIED by the same pronouncement--before he heard about it--in the same way that--all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air were purified by THE FAITH when Jesus commanded it as the PREDESTINATED purpose of the gospel.
      And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Ac.15:9

      • Katharizo (g2511) kath-ar-id'-zo; to cleanse (lit. or fig.): - (make) clean (-se), purge, purify.
      All Jews and all Gentiles were REDEEMED and PURIFIED when Jesus Christ died on the cross and gave the Commission which was to ALL PEOPLE and not just the "predestinated Jews." Cornelius was purified at the same time that creeping things were purified by THE FAITH OF CHRIST who simply DECLARED that "It is finished."

      Jesus opened the WAY through His own death, burial, inspiriting of the body, resurrection and being "translated into the heavenly kingdom." We traverse the WAY or THE FAITH through our own faith. However, we ENTER INTO the kingdom only after God cleanses our heart by faith when we submit to baptism. That is what Jesus commanded Peter and Cornelius wanted to hear the SAME MESSAGE Peter had heard.

      Pigs were PURIFIED by the faith of God in Christ. As far as I know they do not have their sins remitted, are not given A holy spirit and will not go to heaven.

      Cornelius was DECLARED purified long before Peter spoke to him and even TOUCHED him proving that he was PURIFIED or CLEAN before Peter began to preach the gospel and BEFORE the spirit 'embraced' Cornelius to PROVE to the other doubting Jews what God had proven to HARD HEADED PETER several times.

      If purified means SALVATION then Cornelius was SAVED without hearing, being touched by the Spirit, believing or confessing in a language the doubting Jews could understand.

      If the CORNELIUS DODGE is to believed then you are FORCED to believe that every single Gentile on the face of the earth SHALL BE SAVED.

      IF you insist on being PURIFIED the way Cornelius was purified AND you do not obey in the same Way Cornelius was COMMANDED TO DO just as Jesus commanded Peter to baptize ALL BELIEVERS which is the first step of discipling them.
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