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    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted Jul 31, 2005 10:52 PM

      I think Steve loaded the faculty with PhDuhs who teach against those that pay their retirement plan. He also was a founding member of the Jubilee Incorporated which created more "turf battle" sowing of discord than at any point in church of Christ history. Of course, before he could go to Lipscomb he had to be SANITIZED by resigning the CORPORATION which was not run by a Shaller or Rick Warren and did not make it into the 500 on Wall Street.

      National Health was also kind enough to give an OUT to a fairly recent BIBLE GURU. Remember? I hear that he will be more like a chaplin.

      The "scholarly" garbage that flows out of LU is about like that which flows out of most of the "Christian colleges" which have been INFILTRATED and DIVERTED by people who cannot be Bible believers.

      I suspect that like all of the changing of churches into "theaters for holy entertainment" the SUCKED IN SEEKERS never pay the bills. That means that those who BOUGHT AND PAID FOR LU do not think it should be STOLEN by people who are decidedly ANTI anything the church of Christ stands for. I have pushed the idea since 1997 that they can STEAL your university but you can make it AN UNFUNDED INSTITUTION. With 70% church of Christ students it should remain a church of Christ institution just like a Baptist college will always be a Baptist college and YOUR house will not be stolen by thieves. I think the news is out and if LU produces PREACHERS they will all have to work for Rubel or his few friends.

      You might not appreciate other colleges which are faithful to their OWNERS but that is just the way it is. And it turns out that the views you probably LUST to infiltrate such as instrumental music, an anti baptism stance and a "broader role for women" which was Rubel Shelly's platform can be REFUTED by any one who fished Card Class, fast ones of the slow group. The junk which is trafficked by you guys about Music shows ignorance of the Bible beginning in the garden of Eden, through all of the FALLS, the end time Babylonian Whore religion, all of the church Fathers, all of the founders of denominations and the views and practices of the Catholic Church.

      The GREEK scholars have never looked up the original documents and just don't know the universal connection between RELIGIONISM with "exhilaration", sexuality and perverted sexuality. No, no musical worship team can replace Lord Jesus and LEAD YOU INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD. No, the Bible has not been FILTERED of all truth except 7 facts ABOUT Jesus. No, I have looked at your sermons for the last several years and they have used all of the RACA words against those who will not BOW when they PIPE. They have NEVER obeyed the command to "teach that which has been taught." They are always used as fodder for smooth philosophy. I would blush if I paid the best rhetorician or sophist for TAKING LIBERTIES with the Bible to construct YOUR OWN NARRATIVE or even to WRITE yourself in the place of Moses. Now, individuals do not have the right to READ, INTERPRET AND SPEAK the Bible outside of the COMMUNITY where COMMUNITY always means COMMUNE. No, the church will not be revisioned using hireling, changeling terms directly from neo-paganism and witchcraft. No, only a handfull of churches have been stolen so they can add instruments which apparently could not be tolerated by elders who tolerated Rubel "working our his own theology.

      I think that the LAWYER and CONFLICT resolver is coming to resolve the conflict within the university and if I were a PLANT teaching ignorant Bible and history I would be looking for a job. The problem is that the Christian Church or no one else will hire people who have BETRAYED their PAYMASTERS. Maybe Steve will give you a job on the dole of the government.

      The "scholarly" garbage that flows out of most PhDUHs is truly embarrassing to anyone who has read the ORIGINAL documents of men like the Campbells, Luther, Calvin and Paul.

      I think you think that church of Christ "traditionalism" is based on the Campbells. Contrary to Rubel the Commands, Examples and necessary inferences come DIRECTLY from the Bible and was taught by most of the church fathers and is supported by men like Luther and Calvin. Steve taught that NOT using instruments was JUST OUR TRADITIONS. I don't see how you can run for governor if you don't know the universal history against any kind of MUSICAL performance. I am quite sure that you buy the dogma that the only purpose of the church is TO WORSHIP. For that, of course, you need a STAFF INFECTION. The purpose if you had ever read the Bible is that assembly or gathering uses a form of the Greek SYNAGOGUE. There was no praise service in the synagogue and any one who did performance music in the ekklesia would have been cast out forever.

      I believe that what is probably husband and wife have a relationship with the preacherhood that IS THICKER THAN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST. But, I can tell you, I think the heretics at Lipscomb will not survive the SWING of the pendulum which ALWAYS swings.
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