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  • Quack! Quack! remember the end time FROG SPIRITS?
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted Feb 17, 2006 12:21 PM

        Luey:Growing up in the church of Christ, I never really questioned anything. But as an adult, I found that I have a mind to think and can voice my opinion.

        It seems to me that the argument against instrumental music mainly comes from the doctrine referred as "the Law of Silence" Where the bible is silent, we also should be silent. However, what I have seen is that people of this belief regarding instrumental music are far but silent on the subject.

      What is it about SPEAK with ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH using THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN or SCRIPTURE to EDIFY or EDUCATE, GLORIFY GOD and OUTLAW the discord from doubtful or untaught people in Romans 14 that is SO HARD TO GRASP? Only the INSTRUMENTAL fellas USE the LAW OF SILENCE. You have direct commands about what to DO in the ekklesia or school of the Bible in Romans 15 and the "not singing" passages. In Romans 14 you have EXCLUDED anything NOT related to teaching the Word as it has been delivered. The musicators used NO law expept the Lucifer Principle as the "singing and harp playing prostitute" to take people captive and STRIP THEM of their children's health care money. Don't get DRUNK with wine is a statement often found in the literature: it means don't get FLUTED DOWN with wine or PIPED DOWN because no "holy bartender" and TRAFFIC without the flute-girls which translates prostitutes. We have direct testimony that no MALE would do that unless a DRUNK or a PERVERT. Psallo means PLUCK and always points to WARFARE or to PROSTITUTES or SODOMITES "playing the flute to fleed the FAT HEADS and SIMPLETONS" as Lucian of Samosata wrote about Alexander the ORACLE MONGER whom you can see IN CHURCH.

      Excuse me, Luey, but you have been listening to the PRO instrumental group. You may have missed the "church in the wilderness" where loud rejoicing and instruments were forbidden because the "civilians" were NEVER called into assembly except to be instructed. Both some first days and later all seventh days were for REST which does not mean WORSHIP. They were to READ or REHEARSE the Word or what the elders had hear when the tribal elders gathered to LEARN say the song of Moses.

      The Law of Moses, the king, the Monarchy and the WHOLE period from the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai until they "turned to Jesus" would see leaders BLINDED. The sacrificial system and te temple were LIKE THE NATIONS because Stephen says that their MUSICAL IDOLATRY was their prayer to be TURNED OVER TO WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST.

      The people synagogued even in the wilderness which was to QUARANTINE them from "worship rituals" which originated in Babylon including the SABBATH and the TITHE as ritual rather than FREE REST.

      Jesus build an ekklesia and Paul defined it in Romans 15 as a "school of the Bible." That is exactly what the Campbells understood. Their view was that you cannot ADD anything to that unless it is DIRECTLY COMMANDED or APPROVED by Jesus or the Apostles. There is no COMMAND to make music and indeed the whole Bible treats it as a SHOW OF CONTEMPT. Not a simple minded kid would sing, clap and play instruments if God REALLY came into their school. Well, only those who have been TURNED OVER to worship the STARS.

      You cannot use the fact that God never stated the facts negatively--Thou shalt NOT play a instrument as used by the INSTRUMENTALISTS--as authority to deliberately sow discord.

      The Bible is NOT SILENT and the fact that the URBAN COWBOYS in a grand , well oiled plan, can tell you that the Bible is SILENT in condemning is a proof that they are slick willies performing "miracles" just as prophesied.

      Now, if you are a DEAD VIRGIN, you are permitted to SYMBOLICALLY hold your harp but this is allways AS which means a parable. And Jesus spoke in PARABLES to the clergy to deliberately BLIND those who had triffled with His Word. A Pharisee is one who CHANGES the Word specificially so he can teach HIS words so he can STEAL from widows using THE LAW OF GIVING. A Scribe is a BOOK WRITER who writes sermons and songs to SILENCE the Word of God. Hypocrites were a SECTARIAN band of merry (yes, gay) men who PERFORMED in rhetorical speaking, singing or playing instruments. Just like Amos, Jesus pronounced WOES on these people

      NO JEW ever "worshipped" with congregation singing and instrumental accompaniment. Never. The Levitical Warrior Musicians SERVED or did HARD BONDAGE by making a huge noise to mask the horrors of the slaughter of innocent animals and the smell of blood and dung. That is why Jesus CAST OUT the musican minstrels LIKE ONE EJECTS DUNG.

      The Catholic church NEVER engaged in congregational singing with instrumental accompaniment. When you hear MUSIC it is the MARK of the end time Babylon Whore who with all of her musicians, singers, grinders (prostitutes) and craftsmen (theater builders and stage managers) will be transported back to HELL after which there will be REST. I believe people can be STAGED by the MUSICIANS or LOCUSTS who come to separate those with different MARKS.

      One of the MARKS of false RELIGIONISTS who SILENCE the voice of God with or without instruments is that ANYONE could ask such questions.

      Is MAX headed for Nashville? Heard rumor.
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