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  • OK to to TEST THE SPIRITS: not ok to STEAL CHURCH HOUSES.
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted Mar 1, 2006 11:08 PM

      Peter defined the MEMORY he was leaving, defined it as EYE and EAR witness and left us a record so that we could MARK or JUDGE false teachers. Paul said that elders (the authorized teachers) must "teach that which has been taught" and "refute those who oppose it."

      Judgment here is not measuring a person's teaching by Scripture. Nor, is it assigning the same judgment Jesus assigns. Judgment is something taking place among "instrumental" churches as they lie, cheat, us the Law, steal churches and force the owners to "get over it" or "get with it or get out." J. W. McGarvey went through such an experience. I know of completed hostile takeovers or coups and I am aware of a dedicated people who have almost pledged themselves not to eat until they have "taken the axe" to ANTI-instrumental churches of Christ:

      Matt 7:1 JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.

      Judging is when you DECIDE that a church would "save more souls" if taken out of the hands on churches of Christ and then taking ACTION to inflict monetary and spiritual DAMAGE against the old owners. You may remember that one early such event was at Sand Creek, Ill., where Daniel Sommers got blackened for PREVENTING the stealing of the church.

      Krino (g2919) kree'-no; prop. to distinguish, i.e. decide (mentally or judicially); by impl. to try, condemn, punish: - avenge, conclude, condemn, damn, decree, determine, esteem, judge, go to (sue at the) law, ordain, call in question, sentence to, think..

      krinô 3. pass sentence upon, condemn, D.19.232:-- Pass., to be judged, condemned, kakourgou . . esti krithent' apothanein Id.4.47 ; mê krinete, hina mê krithête Ev.Matt.7.1 ; the judgement of a court,
        Demosthenes On the Embassy 19.[232] With this example before his eyes, who, men of Athens, will ever wish to prove himself an honest man, or to go on embassy for nothing, if he is neither to make money nor to be held more worthy of your confidence than those who have made money? Today you are not merely adjudging this case: you are legislating for all future time, whether every ambassador is basely to serve your enemies for hire, or without fee or bribe to give his best service to you.

        First Philippic Demosthenes 4.[47] How then is all this to be stopped? As soon as you, men of Athens, definitely appoint the same men as soldiers and as eye-witnesses of the campaign, and, on their return, as jurymen at the audit of your generals. In this way you will not merely learn about your affairs by hearsay, but you will be witnesses on the spot. So scandalous is our present system that every general is tried two or three times for his life in your courts, but not one of them dares to risk death in battle against the enemy; no, not once. They prefer the doom of a kidnapper or a pickpocket to a fitting death; for malefactors are condemned to the gallows, generals should die on the field of honor.

      Mt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
        Krima (g2917) kree'-mah; from 2919; a decision (the function or the effect, for or against ["crime"]): - avenge, condemned, condemnation, damnation, / go to law, judgment.
      So, the old JUDGMENT ploy is psychological violence because you don't like people spreading the absolute truth that music is a MARK which says to God: "WE WILL NOT listen to Your songs and sermons." In speaking about MOUTH RELIGION Jesus pointed directly to beautiful singing and well-played instrument: they hear your words but refuse to obey.

      It's all playing out exactly as Revelation 18's definition of the Babylon Harlot prophesied.
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    What Happened at the Madison Church of Christ?


    There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.

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    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

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    At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

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    Here is the list of players;

    5 Godly Elders
    10 Not so Godly Elders
    120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
    2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
    2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
    Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
    Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
     

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