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  • Re: And the gate is...
    • PPB (no login)
      Posted Mar 2, 2006 7:23 PM


      Your view would make the rest of the sentence null and void, wouldn't it? Much less the verse directly before it. If all it takes is surrendering to Christ without obedience, then the gate would be awfully wide. Why even warn us of the narrowness? Do you really think that God just put in that verse for the fun of it? Maybe he wanted to tease us? Common sense needs to come into play here at some point guys, does it not? You are aware that "few" would not correlate to the number of people that have surrendered to Christ, but have rejected some of his Father's commands (like some of the posters here)?

      By the way, if I REALLY and TRULY SURRENDER to Christ, then would I not FEEL OBLIGATED to abide by his request to follow ALL his Father's commandments? I mean, true love is total acceptance, is it not? Oops, better throw this verse out with the "fear God" ones, since God didn't really mean for us to actually believe those verses. Is there some secret code that tells me which ones I'm supposed to obey and which ones I should disregard?

      Trying to find a way around such a straight forward and simple sentence takes a lot of effort. Wouldn't it just be easier to take God at face value and listen to His inspired word? Christ said few would find eternal life...I didn't say it nor did anyone on this site. We didn't make it up and we didn't twist it around. It's simple Greek grammar that translates into simple English grammar. I didn't see any OR's or Maybe's that would give us an option. But then again, I'm always amazed at how some posters still find a way to justify their OPINION which they cannot back up scripturally or grammatically.

      Hey, if you think you can play such games with your soul, okay. Russian Roulette anyone?

      If you feel like arguing with Christ, go ahead. I'll sit this one out.

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