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  • Psallo
    • Chris (no login)
      Posted Mar 5, 2006 7:38 AM

      PPB,

      You wrote 'It drives me crazy when someone starts on Greek translations without understanding that word meanings changed throughout the ages. Take Psalms (Psallo) for instance. The liberals use it for their reasoning for instrumental music. I constantly hear the translation as "to pluck a string." Well, yes, at around 500 AD or later it did take on that meaning. At 300 BC, it's meaning didn't have anything to do with an instrument and by 65 AD, it meant to sing WITHOUT an instrument. We know that Paul's letters were written during the time Psallo meant to "sing without an instrument." So, which one should we use? The correct translation of the word at the time it was used OR the one we want to make work because it's fits our needs better. I personally chose to follow the original intention and not what I want it to mean.

      The info below is for your consideration

      Lexicon ascribed to Cyril of Alexandria (444 A. D. ): (psalmos):
      "A musical composition, as when the instrument is rhythmically played according to the harmonic scale.”

      Clement of Alexandria (Paedag. ii, 4);
      "The psalm is a melodious and sober blessing."

      Basil the Great (Hem. in Ps. 44):
      "For it is a song and not a psalm, because it is rendered with musical expression by the voice alone, without the accompaniment of the instrument."

      Basil (Hem. in Ps. 29: 1):
      "The psalm is a musical discourse when it is played rhythmically on the instrument with harmonic sounds."

      Gregory of Nyssa in Ps. c.3 (this is not 100:3, but chapter three on the headings on the psalms):
      "A psalm is singing which is effected with the aid of instrumental music.”

      Lucian in Parasites wrote “It is impossible to pipe without a pipe or to PSALLEIN without a lyre or to ride without a horse.” (Approx 160AD)

      CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA

      Clement of Alexandria wrote about 200 A. D. In The Instructor he calls musical instruments “licentious and mischievous. “ He then relates to us that he no longer employed these ancient instruments. But he concludes by saying, “And even if you wish to sing and play to the harp or lyre, there is no blame. “

      Please let me know if you need definition of the word from Greek Scholars like Robertson, Arndt & Gingrich, Thayer, Vine etc. It is too long to post it here but if you or others would like more info, please email me.

      Chris
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