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  • Re: Now, the background, to the MARK of the Beasties.
    • Concerned Christian (no login)
      Posted Mar 6, 2006 4:37 PM

      Sorry for my absence...I was out knocking on doors this weekend (that "church growth scheme" again) helping spread the message of Jesus

      PPB,

      You talk about simple English and yet you do not listen to what I said without getting worked up and responding with anger. Here is what I said about the Tract thing. "Please give YOUR "verifiable" evidence before you come back with a tract from your foyer." I said nothing about me getting my information from a tract. This is the c of C way. Get your answers from these tracts. Simple English and you made it into something I did not say. Hummmmm, what else do you do with simple English? I also mentioned that the church assembly "does not seal my salvation" and you blew up into a dimension of unknown. Please read before you judge what I said. Church assembly does not seal my salvation anymore that it does yours. You need to realize that the Christian walk does not go on only in the sanctuary. Once again Simple English...etc.

      I am done with you people. I know there will continue to be anger and venom, but like I said before on numerous occasions, you people make Heaven difficult to obtain, PPB and others constantly show there ignorance every time they touch a keyboard and the battle is lost. The freedom of Christ is not to be abused so that "Grace May Abound" it is about being excited about Jesus (smiling, swaying, raising hands) and making church (assembly) not always be the focus and the means to Heaven, but spread the saving grace of Jesus.

      I was visiting with a friend of mine that works at a private Christian High School and he told me that the school board wants more "change agents" the branch of the "Old Church of Christ" is on Life Support and they are gladly seeing the anger and venom leave. You see as you all have been so ugly and pushy and make instruments be on the same level as orgies (sex games) and idol worship in church, it has been slowly driving people away.

      Once Again, "God does NOT want people to go to Hell. He established a Law for people to understand boundaries. He then brought the Law of Christ which is Grace Driven. No one is perfect, and when clothed in Christ's Blood I am confident that I am going to Heaven. Your comments remind me of class I was teaching recently. We had a few "crispers" like you that were not sure if they were going to heaven they just "Hoped" that they were going to Heaven. 50/50 chance? WOW! How do people not have confidence? That is the Fear Factor that has been engrained into Christians Heads for years! It amazes me how we cannot have the confidence that by Following Christ we will win! We are promised that!

      There is no way any of us deserve Heaven, which is why He sent Jesus here to save us. I guess trying to undo 40-50-60+ years of theology are hard for some to do."

      In Closing: Moderators, I am shocked at this website, letting a WOMAN teach over men. I thought we were to follow the Bible to the "Letter." I guess you are change agents as well, letting her have an opinion and teach MEN.


      For the Moderators and PPB http://www.theophilus.org/lawyers.html

      The Church Shrinking Schemers are coming, the Church Shrinking Schemers are coming!!!

      Not so Respectfully Yours,

      Fritz Freedom
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