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  • Re: Heaven IS Difficult to Obtain
    • Concerned Christian (no login)
      Posted Mar 8, 2006 11:54 AM

      I did read the reference and I can clearly see what you are talking about. Education allowed me to no longer be fooled. Our heritage has some pretty weak arguments and they are now being exposed. I refuse to go back and fight points that have no relevance for me. Instruments, church attendance sealing my salvation, being excited in worship (Raising Holy Hands), Praise team (Multiple Song Leaders Rather than One), solos with Music is wrong, but a Prayer (which is a solo without Music) is OK. Just to name a few are of no interstes to me to go back to.

      Our interpretations of Scripture not only in the Church of Christ, but denominationally wide have been intersting. Pick and choose theology if you will. For instance the Lord's Supper which we say can only be taken on Sunday or Jesus will be upset is ridiculous. We have overused Acts 20:7 and fail to continue to read beyond verse 7 Please continue to read 11. Sounds like on Monday they took it again. And if "Break Bread" is an idiom for the Lord's Supper then we should do it daily Acts 2:46.

      It is arguments like this that are driving people away. The C of C and other churches act as if they have the perfect answers to everything, but our own arguments come back to haunt us. Being Free in Christ is truly a path I and lots of others are choosing to take. We love Jesus and what He has done for us and if that is truly apostate then I guess I will go to Hell with many...because as some keep telling me Broad is the Way, which means that if you have an instrument, communion on any day except Sunday, Sway in Worship(as Donnie Puts it), Having a Praise Team etc. then I am truly doomed.

      As I have said over and over agian, what goes on in a church assembly is edification (I believe we agree) of one another and Worship. However everyday is Worship in how we live our lives. I try every day to be a Light to people just like you do, however I will no longer set limitations on God and make up rules He never said were a Heaven and Hell issue.

      Keep studying I think you will see that God is not difficult to get to Know. He is not a God of Confusion.
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    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

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