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  • RE: Providing Immunity to Fads
    • Chris (no login)
      Posted Oct 17, 2006 4:28 PM


      I became acquainted with the Concerned Members (CM) website this past June while attending Vacation Bible School at my home congregation… The person who shared his knowledge of this site with me, to be quite honest, didn’t have much good to say about it… I visited the site simply out of curiosity and hate to admit that I have become somewhat addicted to the discussions that take place… I find myself experiencing a plethora of emotions as I read and participate in the discussions… As you know from our previous discussions, I don’t always agree with your views… I don’t question your heart or your motives… I simply believe you are so focused on exposing error that you find error in everything different from what you have traditionally done… With that in mind, let me address your latest post entitled “Providing Immunity to Fads…”

      If you recall, I have posted and referenced articles from John Waddey on this site before… His articles, although basic, are thought provoking… For his ability to challenge our thinking, I applaud his efforts… However, I must admit that I am somewhat disappointed by this particular article… Here are the reasons for my disappointment:

      First, I am disappointed by the fact that he makes some very harsh and serious accusations about the hearts and motives of those he has labeled “change agents.” He claims they are “eager to sample anything proposed for worship that is new or different” … and are doing it because they “are determined to make a name for themselves.”

      Second, he fails to define/mention the fads he claims are being used to destroy the church of our Lord…

      Third, he claims that those who receive a steady diet of meaningful Bible instruction are safe… He stated that those safe people have no appetite for anything “contrary” to the Master’s message for the church; that they will not tolerate “changes to the divine plan…” Sadly, John does not mention what these “contrary changes to the divine plan” are… I would be interested to know if these changes are those items he discussed in his article concerning the need for wisdom to discern what are and are not issues…

      Fourth, he seems to indicate that he believes that those whose worship style is different than his are only doing those different “childish” things because they are interested in being entertained…

      Fifth, I would be very much interested in your posting the attendance numbers for the past several years of the church where John Waddey ministers so that we can see the tremendous growth that occurs when people are actively engaged in seeking and saving the lost… I am sure that the active planting and watering of those people is being blessed by God and the increase is quite noticeable… Please post this information for us to review…

      Donnie, as you and John, I am very much concerned with the church of our Lord… I am concerned about the dangers of BOTH legalism and liberalism… I am troubled by the one who seeks to abandon Biblical truth as much as I am troubled by the one who seeks to bind where God has not bound… I would be greatly appreciative for your, or John’s, contributing a list of those fads being used to change the church of our Lord and the verses that address them… I am not interested in your “it’s different than what we have traditionally done in the church of Christ” argument… Because, Donnie, how do you know that our traditional (last 100+ years style of worship) is exactly how they worshipped in the first century…
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