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  • Yes, your troubler is our trouble:
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted Feb 15, 2008 10:15 PM

      This forum is because what happens to you IS relevant to many posters. We have watched your preachers obviously with the support of the elders and enabled by the "law of giving" spread its terror--in my case--from my old church in Seattle to the remote hills of Tennessee.

      Your preacher has been part of a small band of men picked out and mentored by the Unify Forums and agents from the NACC. All of those who have diverted their congregation to their own purposes set out with the goal to restructure ALL non-instrumental churches of Christ: if not to JOIN then to "shut your mouth" about instrumental music. The threats have been more than rhetorical when they will lie, cheat and steal the church houses of widows.

      Whatever your problem I suggest that they stem from preaching which has no love for the Word so that people are naked about the MARK of music from the "singing and harp playing prostitute" in the garden of Eden and unstopped to the Mother of Harlots (Lucifer-Zoe) in Revelation using the "lusted after fruits" (parallel to Amos) as slick speakers, singers and instrument players. John and all of the Greek literature identifies them as sorcerers--intending to make you believe a certain way bypassing your rational or spiritual mind.

      I am sure that the "residue" do not agree with the false elders and preacher and you do have recourse. Based on other "infiltrations and diversions" they probably have unlawfully changed the bylaws to permit instruments. These bylaws normally cannot be changed by a self-selected "board of directors." No preacher or elder has ANY authority other than to "teach that which has been taught" and "refute those who oppose it." They have broken the contract and you should not let wimpy burgers intimidate you.

      Next, as with Rick Atchley who had a hidden agenda for 12 years, I am certain (because I read) that you have had your own "frog boiling" unethical "navigating the winds of change."

      That means that someone is jail bait for fiduciary malfeasance and could be in trouble even before God gets hold of the whole "leadership."

      I absolutely guarantee you that no one did any research but they read off the pages from men like David Faust and other agents of the NACC. With or without their awareness they have lied about every "instrument" passage in the Bible and church history. Whatever the "music" issue, lying is grouped with sorcery as a burnable offense and all known history points to musical performers as the sorcerers: Jesus called the Scribes and Phraisees Hypocrites by pointing to "slick speakers, singers and instrument players."

      Because this writer is a full decade into health and "retirement" destruction, let me assure you that the Quail (someone laid a Cuckoo egg) with what appears to be help from the university and the Chronicle which seems to have been an organ for these people. I am certain from reading from the "scholars" at the Okey U that they do not have a clue about the musical fall from Grace at Mount Sinai.

      Remember the MARK: they have lied about every "instrument" hint in the Bible and apparently no "scholar" at the university knows any difference. The preacher and "staff infection" are YOUR hireling, you pay him and you should fire him.
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