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  • Re: ELDERS, CAN'T SAY NO! Been taken captive
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      Posted Jan 26, 2009 3:50 PM

      The problem arises out of allowing tyrants trained in speech, drama and music to USURP the role of the body which decides to follow or obey an elder who has the vocational role of pastor-teacher of the flock. The rise of the clergy class has been hastened by working with groups like the NACC who taught them all of the false information about "music" in the cursed Sacrificial system. Music is derived from myth or mystery and the function of the sacrificial musicians (called parasites) was to "force the lambs to be silent before the slaughter." Therefore, you are not speaking about a few rotten eggs but but rank heresy where both sermonizing preaching and singing were added by the "converted" pagans in about the year 373.

      A preacher is a herald of evangelist: He goes, he speaks the message, he goes away.
      An Apostle is also a messenger: He goes, he speaks the message and goes away.

      The early Bishops went out as poor priests, they taught, set up schools, served by helping to feed others.

      The Pope cannot be either a preacher, evangelist or apostle and the "daughter" churches have caught a vile disease by trying to go ecumenical in connection with the Pope's Y2K Jubilee. Jesus MARKED the Bishop of Rome.

      Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give;
      but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
      Mark 10:41 And when the ten heard it, they began to be much displeased with James and John.
      Mark 10:42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them,
      Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them;
      and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

      Mark 10:43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
      Mark 10:44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.
      Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister,
      and to give his life a ransom for many.


      Both evangelists and apostles were pledged to go preach the Word and abandon themselves to suffering and death.

      Euripides, The Suppliants the Theban Herald
      Theseus


      This herald [Kerux] is a clever fellow, a dabbler in the art of talk.
      But since you have thus entered the contest with me,
      listen awhile, for it was you that challenged a discussion.
      Nothing is more hostile to a city than a despot; [430]
      where he is, there are first no laws common to all, but one man is tyrant,
      in whose keeping and in his alone the law resides,
      and in that case equality is at an end.

      But when the laws are written down, rich and weak alike have equal justice,
      [435] and it is open to the weaker to use the same language to the prosperous when he is reviled by him,
      and the weaker prevails over the stronger if he has justice on his side.

      Freedom's mark is also seen in this: Who has wholesome counsel to declare unto the state? [440] And he who chooses to do so gains renown, while he, who has no wish, remains silent. What greater equality can there be in a city?

      Again, where the people are absolute rulers of the land, they rejoice in having a reserve of youthful citizens, while a king counts this a hostile element,
      [445] and strives to slay the leading men, all such as he thinks discreet, fearing for his power.
      How then could a city remain stable, where one cuts short all enterprise and mows down the young like meadow-flowers in spring-time?

      [450] What good is it to acquire wealth and livelihood for children, merely to add to the tyrant's substance by one's toil? Why train up daughters virtuously in our homes to gratify a tyrant's whim, whenever he wishes, and cause tears to those who rear them?

      May my life end [455] if ever my children are to be wedded by violence! This bolt I launch in answer to your words. Now say,
      why have you come? what do you need of this land?
      If your city had not sent you,
      to your cost you would have come with your outrageous utterances;

      for it is the herald's [angelon] duty [460]
      to tell the message he is bidden and go back in haste.
      Henceforth let Creon send to my city some other messenger less talkative than you.

      Chorus Leader

      Ah! how insolent the villains are, when Fortune is kind to them, just as if it would be well with them for ever.


      ANGELOS a messenger, envoy,

      2783. kerux, kay´-roox; from 2784; a herald, i.e. of divine truth (especially of the gospel): preacher
      2784. kerusso, kay-roos´-so; of uncertain affinity; to herald (as a public crier), especially divine truth (the gospel): preacher(-er), proclaim, publish.

      Kêrux: A herald, public messenger, envoy, PRESBYTER being a messenger between nations at war. used interchangeably with APOSTOLOS, as Paul commanded Timothy about working so he soucl sponsor the Agape for the poor on the way to work, he also functions as a mageiro or cook at festivals.
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