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  • RE: Still Questioning the "Determining Aids and Additions" Chart
    • (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Jun 3, 2009 1:35 PM

      Chris,

      It is apparent that you haven't understood the simple "bread and butter" illustration.

      Let me simplify it further for you. Despite the conjunction "and" in the text, do you notice the linking verb "is" in: "Bread and butter is my food"? It is singular in form, isn't it? Now, your deduction is correct in that my food is neither bread alone nor butter alone. My food is "bread and butter"--a necessary combination of both bread and butter. Same is true with singing/reciting/verbalizing God's message of truth in a hymn or song -- reading from a script is an aid to singing or reciting. Reading is a necessity especially when the text is unfamiliar or when one experiences memory lapses; otherwise, the singer/reciter may end up speaking unintelligible words. Chris, please don't let the conjunction "and" cloud up your thinking ability.

      Therefore, reading does not alter God's directive to speak or recite or sing God's truth. Man's response to God's directive to speak to yourselves via singing is singing.

      With regard to SINGING AND PLAYING, I really don't know how else to explain that to you. Yes, there is the conjunction "and" that has really confounded your thinking. But context is conclusive that PLAYING musical devices is NOT NECESSARY or AN AID to singing/reciting/vocalizing God's message in the song. It makes it a "combo" [pun intended] when the rest of the congregants sings/recites while one or a few PLAY FOR/TO God their tambourines and psalteries and cymbals.

      Did I say anything about the "five acts of worship"? NO ... NO ... No. I simply mentioned the observance to commemorate the Lord's sacrifice and death on the cross; a gathering of saints for edification, exhortation, for "speaking to yourselves," "teaching and admonishing one another" ... in songs. There are no format examples of "worship" in the New Testament other than to "worship Him in spirit and in truth." From a practical standpoint, we know that the early Christians patterned their assembly from synagogue worship which was comprised of reading God's truth from scrolls, prayer, simple singing without musical instruments and the giving of means to help the needy. Of course, the commemoration of the Lord's death was God's directive to the first century Christians, and such was the practice of the early church as recorded.
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