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    • Captainc (Login Captainc08)
      Posted Aug 7, 2009 12:31 AM

      First of all, I'm about six weeks behind this lengthy dialoge between you and brother Cruz. It's a blessing to reflect on how I was raised and taught by family members who emphasized the true and singular nature of the Church (I Pet. 2 9-10)...and how the church is not a "church of churches" with differing names that practice varying positions (acappella
      and/or instrumental, infant baptism, no baptism, and perhaps other doctrines) that are held together on the single premise that we all "believe in Jesus." Sadly, at this point, some of these family members have espoused these "change agent ideas"...so it appears you have too.

      To make reference to "Church of Christ" as a denomination reflects a loss of appreciation for the true church as we read about in familiar refrain throughout the NT...made up of those "added unto the Lord", the body and Bride of Christ, in locality Colosse, Corinth, Ephesus...etc.

      Am assuming from the above post you also seem insistent in posturing IM as an inspired and acceptable practice in assemblies of Gods holy people today. Is hard not to reflect on the R. Atchley series (12/06) and how he makes every effort to portray instrumental forms as equally acceptable to God despite the absence of inspiration in the NT. R. Atchley's "lifting out" of passages from 2 Chronicles chaps 5, 29, & 30...(events and wording do have their appeal)..and then quickly attempting to dismiss the teaching of the Hebrew period as no longer binding is noteworthy. He then made at least one attack on a writer from the mid-20th century as "standing over the word of God"...which is what he is really doing. It just raises the deeper question of why people like R. Atchley seem to have a need to defend the "instrumentalists."

      Almost enough said for now...in closing I must say that sound thinking bretheren will take to heart passages such as 2 Pet. 1:1-12 in "making your calling and election sure...in doing so you will not fall."

      In Him,

      Captainc
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