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  • Honesty / Truth
    • Sonny (no login)
      Posted Jan 14, 2011 11:42 AM

      I am not troubled at the mention of Brother Waddey's name, but it is no secret I am disappointed in his messages. Not that it matters to him or you, because I am a "nobody" in each of your eyes, but I do consider him a brother in Christ. He is a mistaken brother, but a brother nonetheless. I find his teachings to be grossly erroneous and his "spiritual biography" laced with hypocrisy. John is a peculiar man and preacher. Despite his pride, arrogance, self-righteousness, blindness and legalism, I, his family, friends, and all other Christians, are to love him, forgive him, and try to persuade him. 2 Corinthians 5:11 - "Since, then, we know what it is to fear the LORD, we try to persuade men."

      You said, "Let's be honest here." happy.gif O.k. Honesty - This site is all about personal attacks. Fruit/evidence - volumes about people listed as "change agents." Whereas, this site is not forthcoming and John is certainly not. Nevertheless, at a minimum his theological minutia drivel promoted on this site can be refuted by Sonny and others to the extent that you, the moderator, will allow. I do get the "feeling" that you are about to stop posting any of my messages, as you have not posted some/several in the past. This indeed is a laughing matter, for it shows the inconsistency and lack of transparency of this site. This site ruthlessly attacks the character of preachers about trivial matters in comparison to the character AND FRUIT of one of its own. Thus, when people stop reading anything from Sonny know that he has likely either DIED or been DENIED further posting rights by Brother Cruz.

      HONESTY / TRUTH - I value these pillars, but when you live by these and are adamant about them without a humble and contrite heart and being an advocate of mercy, well, it might be wise to add the pillars of GRACE and MERCY. Yes, Jesus teaches us as Christians and churches to be FULL of grace and truth, not just truth.

      -Sonny
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