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  • Mistaken on Communion and Worship
    • Sonny (no login)
      Posted Jun 9, 2011 6:26 PM

      Brother Cruz,

      You are mistaken about the Lord's Supper in First Corinthians 11 and worship in general. Paul did not say that communion is just about thinking on Jesus but also about unity with those with whom we are partaking. In the context, to examine oneself is specifically examining those relationships that are not unified. For the Corinthians, there were divisions including over spiritual gifts (speaking in tongues) and pride, and matters such as rich versus poor. Paul instructs that communion is not just about the individual with Christ but also about the church with one another.

      Furthermore, we can see this principle taught concerning worship period. An example is Jesus saying to leave the gift at the altar and first be reconciled to our brother. Peter mentions how a lack of respect towards one's wife can hinder their prayers. Again, there is the communion example, and we could probably list more, but it should not be necessary.

      I could be wrong brother, but it appears that you are worshiping at a congregation with brothers and sisters, some of which, you have not forgiven and are consistently in a habit of faultfinding. You are at the assembly to critique, find fault, and share with believers and unbelievers on this site as much as you are there to worship and be involved in the ministries of the congregation and walking in unity.

      Finally, you are disregarding Hebrews 13:17 by claiming that you do not understand a specific command. It is a general overarching instruction, principle and attitude that the flock is to have toward her leaders. So, are you disregarding this teaching or not?

      -Sonny
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