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  • The "Boiling the Frog [Slowly]" Story
    • Donnie (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      Posted Aug 21, 2012 3:25 AM

      MCC-Torn posted on: June 28 2012, 8:49 AM

      Donnie, a lot has happened that you may have not seen. Around new year's they announced that Brent had been let go because the elders had decided to go in a different direction. Maybe he didn't like the instrumental path but that's just me speculating. Or maybe they just wanted somebody famous like Keith again. Right after that, they announced that George was the interim worship leader. Then after about 2 or 3 months they made another announcement that George's time as interim leader was over. Then it was just a few weeks later that the new instrumental "vision" came down.

      Yes, I missed a lot of the happenings and announcements in the early months of this year. I tried to figure out what really happened to Brent. I gather that Phil Barnes was influential in getting Brent employed by the elders as Brent was closely associated with one of Phil's sons in the music business. Do you recall when Brent and his musical band performed that Sunday afternoon [no, it wasn't a gospel tent meeting] in celebration of the "Vision 2000 Debt-Free" success story? Do you think the leadership wasn't ready at the time to start using Brent's IM abilities?

      I believe Keith Lancaster was dismissed because he was controversial -- he introduced the very controversial (at the time) Baptist CHOIR in the church, a.k.a. the "Praise Team." Keith [still] owns the Acappella Ministries organization.

      I was very certain that George Pendergrass would be here to stay -- he also was[?] associated with Keith's Acappella Ministries. But his employment with a company in downtown Nashville was considered a "conflict of interest" while he was Madison's "worship leader." [Not sure which employment came first.]

      So, the instrumental vision has already begun in the Kidz Kingdom.

      We need to refresh our memory -- have we heard of the "Boiling the Frog" story? It is about gradualism at work!!!

      Yes, the "traditional" group now has a "Praise Team." The rah-rah-rah contemporary praise music is no longer that uncommon in the early assembly. Besides waiting on the seniors to "die off," that group is also under siege.

      Just this past Sunday in the "contemporary" group, a video clip during the Lord's Supper was shown with words ("He was despised ... bruised ...") with instrumental music in the background.

      Yes, gradualism at work. Unlike the turmoil over a decade ago, there will be no more announcements as: "Get over it; get used to it; we must move on [and go forward with our 'instrumental vision']."

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