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  • A "tradition" of chasing people away
    • MCC-Torn (Login mcc-torn)
      Posted Aug 27, 2012 7:56 PM

      I did not come here because I enjoy fussing and fighting or taking sides with other church members. This is pretty much a last gasp at communicating with someone or anyone who still cares about the ruining of a once great congregation.

      I have spoken with several elders and church leaders about a lot of the recent changes. They just shrug it off. Others who tried to talk about concerns say the same thing. I don't think they care about people who are genuinely hurting for the congregation they love. We are expendable.

      In the vision they said that they were not going to let "tradition" get in the way of bringing in new souls. But what about the thousands of souls who have left the church because of their break with "tradition"? Didn't Madison used to pack the auditorium for 2 services every Sunday? Didn't Madison used to be the biggest congregation in the church?

      Who are these people they are trying to reach anyway? How many people are sitting around out there saying "I wish there was a church with an identity crisis that disrespects its heritage and confuses its children with inexplicable mixed messages and is willing to run off over half its members who have supported it with blood sweat and tears for decades out there that we could join."

      Are there enough of these bizarre people out there to quadruple the current membership? That's about what it would take to come close to replacing all the good people they have run off already. I think they will be lucky to find a dozen in the first couple of years who want to wade into the mess they have made.

      It is heartbreaking that the elders hope those of us who love the church and our formerly great congregation will just go away. It is sobering to think of the divine accountability that is heaping upon their shoulders for the departure of these souls they were responsible for shepherding. I don't know if I could sleep at night.
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