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  • Re: Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps
    • Ken (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Aug 31, 2012 12:37 PM

      The direct command is to "Use ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH to teach that which is written for our learning which Paul defines as Scripture. Because there is absolutely NO MUSIC possible in SPEAKING that which is written WITHOUT MEASURE or METRON: meter. That is Why Jesus is the personified WORD or LOGOS: Logos is defined to specificially EXCLUDE Jewish fables, poetry or music. SPEAK is exclusive and if you can take the liberty to SANG in mind-altering harmony then simple simons can say that you STILL sang even if you CLANGE.

      IT'S JUST THIS SIMPLE: ADULTS DO NOT MAKE MUSIC WHEN JESUS (The Holy Spirit and ONLY Teacher and Mediator) appears WHEN the Elders "Teach that which has been taught."

      Again, you have to be faithful to the Word of God: there is not a command, example or remote inference that any godly people congregated for singing with or without instruments. In fact, The Church of Christ (the Rock) ordained the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness.

      INCLUSIVE of Rest, reading and rehearsing the Word of God.
      EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing or high sounding rhetoric: Jesus called them hypocrites.
      There was never any singing or praise service in the synagogue because the PURPOSE was:

      Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath
      .....in every city (groups as small as 10 families Ex
      .....them that preach him,
      .....being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

      Ex. 18:20 And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws,
      .....and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk,
      .....and the work that they must do.

      caermna
      A. Objectively, sacredness, sanctity sanctitas regum, et caerimonia deorum. legationis
      B. [select] Subjectively, a holy dread, awe, reverence, veneration of the Deity (external; while religio has regard both to internal and external reverence for God

      ostendo , A. In gen., to show, disclose, exhibit, manifest: ille dies cum glori maxim sese nobis ostendat, 2. Transf.: vocem, to make heard, Phaedr. 1, 13, 9.
      1. To show, express, indicate by speech or signs; to give to understand, to declare, say, tell, make known, etc. (syn.: indico, declaro, significo). :

      Ex. 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide
      tout of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness;
      .....and place such over them, to be
      .....rulers of thousands,
      .....and rulers of hundreds,
      .....rulers of fifties, and
      .....rulers of tens:

      When SINGING as ACT was imposed as late as ad 373 and SPLIT the east and west churches, why would we think that those great scholars NEVER thought of anything TUNEFUL when you GATHER YOURSELVES to Read and Discuss the Word.
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