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  • Re: No one ENTERED the House built by human hands.
    • Donnie (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Sep 23, 2012 5:44 PM

      Racnor,

      "'A' holy spirit" is fine. Non-Trinitarians will understand what that means. Trinitarians believe that the gift is the Holy Spirit according to the Nicene Creed known as the Catholic Trinity Doctrine, i.e., the "Spirit OF the Lord" being the third person in the Trinity Creed.

      As it has already been explained numerous times, the word "spirit" is an improper noun and it is an entity or an attribute of God. The word "spirit" [which is not a proper noun] has been defined or identified throughout the OT and NT periods as meaning "wind, breath, power, force," etc. The word "spirit" of the Lord is modified often by an adjective "holy."

      But the gift spoken of in this passage is that of having a spirit that is holy. It is the result of the conversion process of having sins forgiven or remitted in the blood of the Lamb.

      Acts 2:38 specifically lists the following events.

      1. Activity: Repent
      2. Activity: Be baptized
      3. Result: For the forgiveness of sins
      4. Result: Shall receive the gift of a/the holy spirit.

      The parallel passage in Acts 3:19 specifically lists the following events:

      1. Activity: Repent
      2. Activity: Be converted [there is no conversion without baptism]
      3. Result: That your sins may be blotted out
      4. Result: The times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

      Receiving the gift of having a holy spirit [as opposed to one's spirit being unholy] is clearly receiving the gift of having a clear conscience = "refreshing" = all past sins have been remitted and being ready to begin newness of life.
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    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

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    5 Godly Elders
    10 Not so Godly Elders
    120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
    2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
    2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
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    Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)
     

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