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  • Re: Who will NOT be in "My Fathers House" Grace Centered Forum
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Sep 27, 2012 9:42 PM

      Wayne Jackson undoubtedly thinks that the Scribal record of the Jacob-Cursed and God-abandoned Civil Monarchy are inspired. A fragment of Enoch was found with the Dead Sea Scrolls: older by centuries of any of the New Testament. People badmouth Enoch because they cannot read Genesis as a warning to fallen Israel of the same facts.

      Tertullian on Women and Fallen Angels

      http://www.piney.com//FathEnochTertu.html#P293_59023

      Chapter III.-Concerning the Genuineness of "The Prophecy of Enoch."

      I am aware that the Scripture of Enoch, [Comp. de Idol., c. iv.] which has assigned this order (of action) to angels,

      is not received by some, because it is not admitted into the Jewish canon either.
      I suppose they did not think that, having been published before the deluge, it could have safely survived that world-wide calamity, the abolisher of all things.


      If that is the reason (for rejecting it), let them recall to their memory that Noah, the survivor of the deluge, was the great-grandson of Enoch himself; [See Gen. v. 21, 25, 28, 29.] and he, of course, had heard and remembered, from domestic renown and hereditary tradition, concerning his own great-grandfather's "grace in the sight of God," [Comp. Gen. vi. 8.] and concerning all his preachings; since Enoch had given no other charge to Methuselah than that he should hand on the knowledge of them to his posterity.

      Noah therefore, no doubt, might have succeeded in the trusteeship of (his) preaching; or, had the case been otherwise, he would not have been silent alike concerning the disposition (of things) made by God, his Preserver, and concerning the particular glory of his own house.

      If (Noah) had not had this (conservative power) by so short a route, there would (still) be this (consideration) to warrant our assertion of (the genuineness of) this Scripture: he could equally have renewed it, under the Spirit's inspiration, after it had been destroyed by the violence of the deluge, as, after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonian storming of it, every document of the Jewish literature is generally agreed to have been restored through Ezra.

      But since Enoch in the same Scripture has preached likewise concerning the Lord, nothing at all must be rejected by us which pertains to us; and we read that "every Scripture suitable for edification is divinely inspired. [See 2 Tim. iii. 16.]

      By the Jews it may now seem to have been rejected for that (very) reason, just like all the other (portions) nearly which tell of Christ. Nor, of course, is this fact wonderful, that they did not receive some Scriptures which spake of Him whom even in person, speaking in their presence, they were not to receive.

      To these considerations is added the fact that Enoch possesses a testimony in the Apostle Jude. [See Jude 14, 15.]

      Chapter IV.-Waiving the Question of the Authors, Tertullian Proposes to Consider the Things on Their Own Merits.

      Grant now that no mark of pre-condemnation has been branded on womanly pomp by the (fact of the) fate of its authors let nothing be imputed to those angels besides their repudiation of heaven and (their) carnal marriage: let us examine the qualities of the things themselves, in order that we may detect the purposes also for which they are eagerly desired.

      Female habit carries with it a twofold idea-dress and ornament. By "dress" we mean what they call "womanly gracing; " [Mundum muliebrem. Comp. Liv. xxxiv. 7.] by "ornament," what it is suitable should be called "womanly disgracing."

      Lucifer bisexual, came equipped with musical instrumentds king of tyre

      The former is accounted (to consist) in gold, and silver, and gems, and garments; the latter in care of the hair, and of the skin, and of those parts of the body which attract the eye.

      Against the one we lay the charge of ambition, against the other of prostitution; so that even from this early stage [Jam hinc; comp. ad. Ux., i. 1 ad init.and ad fin., and 8 ad fin.] (of our discussion) you may look forward and see what, out of (all) these, is suitable, handmaid of God, to your discipline, inasmuch as you are assessed on different principles (from other women),-those, namely, of humility and chastity.
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