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  • Re: Be Discerning
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      Posted Sep 29, 2012 4:39 PM

      Rocnar either doesn't understand the neither-add-to-nor-take from command, or he has determined to ignore it and has scratched it from his Bible. That command simply means we are not to add to or take from the Word of God. In other words, we are not to add more to a command than what God specifies within that command, and we are not to take anything away from a command than what God specifies within that command. In the New Testament, God specifies vocal music, not instrumental music. Concerning music, Christians may not go beyond what God has commanded. Rocnar violates that command by ADDING a different kind of music, such as instrumental music.

      Change agents and other rebels try to get around that command with the following fallacious arguments:

      "God doesn't say not to use instrumental music." That statement is not found anywhere in the New Testament.

      "You sin if you condemn instrumental music when God does not condemn it." God already condemns instrumental music in the New Testament by specifying vocal music and by telling us not to add anything more to a command. The sin lies in violating the neither-add-to-nor-take-from command by adding instrumental music.

      "Psalm 150 tells us to praise God with instruments." That was for people who lived during the period of the Old Covenant. Having fulfilled the Old Covenant, Christ nailed the Old Covenant and all its rituals and rites to the cross (Col. 2:14). Christians live under the New Covenant, which specifies vocal music (Eph. 5:19 and Col. 3:16), NOT instrumental music.

      "Revelation mentions harps in heaven, so we can use musical instruments in Christian worship on earth." Revelation mentions NOTHING about mortal human beings playing harps or other instruments either in heaven or on earth. The "harps" are apocalyptic symbols, played by heavenly beings. Heaven is a totally spiritual place with no room for physical items from earth. That "harps" would be the ONLY physical items from earth allowed in heaven is absolutely ABSURD.

      "The neither-add-to-nor-take-from command, found in Deut. 4:2 and Rev. 22:18-19 applies ONLY to those two respective books. It does not apply to the rest of the Bible." This also is absolutely ABSURD. Such a monstrously ridiculous argument implies that we may alter and change any part of the Bible except Deuteronomy and Revelation. Only those who really don't believe God's Word would think like that. They seek any way to shirk His directives and implement their own worldly agenda.

      During his forthcoming long absence, Rocnar needs to think really long and hard about all of this. He needs to decide whether he will overcome his rebellious streak and finally observe the neither-add-to-nor-take-from command, or whether he will remain a "Christian" in name only.
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