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  • Re: Lying about Campbell, Calvin and Christ at Grace Centered Forum
    • ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Oct 11, 2012 7:59 PM

      In The Necessity of Reforming the Church (1543) Calvin wrote:

      http://www.piney.com/CalvinProfessPrea.html

      "In inveighing against ceremonies themselves, and also in abrogating a great part of them, we confess that there is some difference between us and the prophets.

      They inveighed against their countrymen for confining the worship of God to external ceremonies, but still ceremonies which God himself had instituted;

      we complain that the same honor is paid to frivolities of man's devising. They, while condemning superstition, left untouched a multitude of ceremonies
      which God had enjoined, and which were useful and appropriate to an age of tutelage;
      our business has been to correct numerous rites which had either crept in through oversight,
      or been turned to abuse and which, moreover, by no means accorded with the time.

      For, if we would not throw everything into confusion,


      Contrary to their claim that Calvin did not make any Old-New Testament distinctions:

      we must never lose sight of the distinction between the old and the new dispensations,
      and of the fact that ceremonies,
      the observance of which was useful under the law,
      are now not only superfluous, but vicious and absurd.

      But in regard to the former, it is plain that
      they are destitute of authority from the scriptures,
      as well as of any approved example of such intercession;


      while, as to the latter, Paul declares that none can invoke God, save those who have been taught by his word to pray. On this depends the confidence with which it becomes pious minds to be actuated and imbued when they engage in prayer.

      But is it not altogether at variance with reason that the ploughing oxen should starve, and the lazy asses be fed? They will say, however, that they serve at the altar. I answer, that the priests under the law deserved maintenance, by ministering at an altar;
      but that, as Paul declares, the case under the New Testament is different.
      And what are those altar services, for which they allege that maintenance is due to them?
      Forsooth, that they may perform their masses and chant in churches, for example,
      partly labor to no purpose,
      and partly perpetrate sacrilege, thereby provoking the anger of God.

      See for what it is that they are alimented at the public expense!
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