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  • Part C
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Mar 7, 2013 7:40 PM

      No historic scholar failed to be able to read the text and understood that NAME never applied to PERSONS (people) but the names of what was INTERNAL to the one and only God.

      http://www.piney.com/Theophilus.Autolycus.II.html

      You will say, then, to me: "You said that God ought not to be contained in a place, and how do you now say that He walked in Paradise? "Hear what I say. The God and Father, indeed, of all cannot be contained, and is not found in a place, for there is no place of His rest;
      .....but His Word, through whom He made all things, being His power and His wisdom,
      .....assuming the person of the Father and Lord of all, went to the garden in the person of God,
      .....and conversed with Adam. For the divine writing itself teaches us
      .....that Adam said that he had heard the voice.
      .....But what else is this voice but the Word of God, who is also His Son?

      Not as the poets and writers of myths talk of the sons of gods begotten from intercourse [with women],
      .....but as truth expounds, the Word, that always exists,
      .....residing within the heart of God.

      For before anything came into being
      .....He had Him as a counsellor,
      .....being His own mind and thought.
      But when God wished to make all that He determined on,
      .....He begot this Word, uttered, the first-born of all creation,
      .....not Himself being emptied of the Word [Reason],
      .....but having begotten Reason,
      .....and always conversing with His Reason.
      And hence the holy writings teach us, and all the spirit-bearing [inspired] men, one of whom, John, says,
      ....."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,"
      .....showing that at first God was alone, and the Word in Him.


      note 46 The annotators here warn us against supposing that "person" is used as it was afterwards employed in discussing the doctrine of the Trinity, and show that the word is used in its original meaning, and with reference to an actor taking up a mask and personating a character.

      Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God,

      That does not mean that Jesus LOOKED like God Who has no flesh or blood or bones. The WORD was IMAGED by God before it expressed itself in WORDS.

      [Imago likeness epistle letter, epistle An image or likeness of a thing formed in the mind, a conception, thought, imagination, idea:]

      God CREATED His WORD which cannot be ONE of the THREE people of the Godhead. God was the Father who begot the WORD.

      the firstborn of every creature:

      Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


      It was not Jesus but the SPOKEN WORD of God which existed as COETERNAL.

      John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
      John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.


      That's why TRITHEISTS are out on a broken limb.

      note47 Proforiko/j, the term used of the Logos as manifested; the Word as uttered by the Father, in distinction from the Word immanent in Him. [Theophilus is the first author who distinguishes between the Logos (cap. x, supra) and the Logos proforiko/j; the Word internal, and the Word emitted . Kaye's Justin, p. 171.]

      Since the WORD was begotten by the ONE GOD, he must be "junior" and "inferior" as stated by the H. Leo Boles and LU dogma. Therefore, He was ONE with God only in the sense that they WERE FRIENDLY [John Mark Hicks]. ALL of the Bible and historic text PROVES that the WORD of God is His SON: we beget words when we "speak." The Spirit or BREATH is that which propels God's thoughts through His "double-edged sword" or lips. Of course, no one can think that a time existed when God did not THINK and did not SPEAK.

      In Paul's thoughts: "Foolish people love to fool and be fooled."
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