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  • Re: Possessive Case: "HIS" Holy Spirit Is Not Another Divine Being
    • Donnie Cruz (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted May 26, 2013 12:08 PM

      There is a valid reason for God to be of masculine gender. Remember the dozen passages I quoted at the outset that SPECIFICALLY addressed God as "God the Father"? If not, please review and study those passages. I would not address "the Father" as a "she" or as an "it."

      I would not address Jesus Christ our Lord as a "she" or as an "it," either.

      Please look up the definition of the word "spirit." The Holy Scripture speaks of "the spirit of man." The Scripture speaks of "the spirit of God." Quite a contrast!!! On that basis, would you classify "man's spirit" as "man"? I think not. Would I classify "God's spirit" as "God"? I think not. There goes the preposition "of," as well as the contraction [grammatical, not muscular happy.gif ] -- both to show possession or ownership. We've already discussed this -- that what is owned is not the owner; what is possessed is not the possessor.

      The word "spirit" is defined scripturally as "wind" or "power" or "mind" or "breath," etc. It is a common or an improper noun, of neuter gender. In the Scripture, God's spirit (not man's spirit) is modified by the adjective "holy"; thus "the holy spirit OF God" or "the holy spirit OF the Lord Jesus Christ."

      The point is that "the holy spirit" of God our Lord is that WHICH belongs to the Lord God. Only man (the Nicene Creed, the Roman Catholic Church, the papacy) has invented the doctrine that "the holy spirit of God" is God.

      Keep in mind, too, that in all instances, the definite article "the" PRECEDES the expression "spirit" or "holy spirit." What's that supposed to mean? "The spirit of" is hardly an expression for a proper noun. "The holy spirit OF" is not an expression for a proper noun.


      • 1. "God the Father" is unequivocally masculine -- the Holy Scripture mentions that at least a dozen times. Thanks to the Scripture: it does not mention "God the Mother." Of course, the Roman Catholic Church teaches that the Virgin Mary is the Mother of God.

      • 2. The Lord "Jesus Christ" is undoubtedly masculine.

      • 3. "The holy spirit" WHICH BELONGS to the Father or the Lord Jesus Christ is not masculine; it is not feminine, either. What other gender could be assigned to that which is owned by the Lord God?
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