Place your banner ad here.          See all banner ads

|| || About || Links Library || Help Warn Others ||
|| Madison Church of Christ || Richland Hills Church of Christ || Hillcrest Church of Christ || More Churches || Sunday School in Exile ||

Where is my NewThisWeek Email subscription?Click Here

Place your text ad here.           See all text ads

Respond to this messageReturn to Index
Original Message
  • Re: "The Holy Spirit Movement": I AM WHO?
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      Posted Jan 3, 2017 10:51 PM

      Prov. 26:7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.

      Matt. 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the MULTITUDE in parables;
      .....and without a parable spake he not unto them:
      Matt. 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
      .....saying, I will open my mouth in parables; [Psalm 78]
      .....I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

      Jesus taught the masses in parables but revealed the mysteries only to His Disciples in private places.

      Mark 4:2 And he taught them many things by parables,
      .....and said unto them in his doctrine,
      Mark 4:10 And when he was alone, they that were about him
      .....with the twelve asked of him the parable.
      Mark 4:11 And he said unto them,
      .....Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
      .....but unto them that are WITHOUT,
      .....all these things are done in parables:

      The Forum can include I. In partic., a public place, market-place. as opp. the house, a public place,
      A. A market, as a place for buying and selling: in which professional cooks offered their services in preparing special entertainments
      B. The market-place, forum, in each city, as the principal place of meeting, where public affairs were discussed, courts of justice held, money transactions carried on

      Jesus consigned the Pipers hoping to get Him to sing or lament or dance the initiation into the gay priesthood to the Agora or Marketplace. Historians note and many parallels show that the Jews HOPED that Dionysus would be their Messiah. That is the worship to which God abandoned the people at Mount Sinai. Jesus did not pray for those with a WORLD VIEW or the ecumenical and God HIDES from the wise or Sophists which are self-authoring preachers, singers or instrument players. All of these actors made the lambs dumb before the slaughter. Even now it is impossible to give attention to the WORD which God breathed and Jesus articulated.

      MANY are called but FEW are chosen: there are many passages to prove that those who CANNOT understand are OF THE WORLD ORDER. Neither Jesus nor ANYONE who could grasp the call or invitation are OF this World. They are Lost Spirits Jesus was sent to find and place in the church which is supposed to be a SAFE HOUSE from the world of professional religionists:

      Mark 4:12 THAT seeing they may see, and not perceive;
      .....and hearing they may hear, and not understand; [Hear and believe]
      .....LEST at any time they should be converted, [be baptized]
      .....and their sins should be forgiven them .[given A holy spirit]

      Many years later John Wrote to debunk the Greek influence that Hermes (Mercury, Kairos) was the true LOGOS and mediator or messenger between the gods and people. Hermes of the OLD hermeneutics was also the god of thieves, liars and the marketplace. A "hermes" was a phallic pole with the real "head" of hermes painted in read. These poles marked the market place.

      The LOGOS is the Word meaning what God SPEAKS without having a triad member of the god family REQUIRED to deliver God's power. Scripture says that the GOSPEL which is the Word or Logos is THE power: it cannot be enhanced by a priestly class such as priests and Levites NOT part of the "houses" or laity.

      John uses many words to describe God by HIS unique Work as the OPPOSITE of the common Greek. Notice that God is defined by MANY figurative words

      John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD,
      .....and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
      John 1:2 The same was in the beginning WITH God.
      John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

      .........Psa. 33:4 For the WORD of the LORD is right; and all his WORKS are done in truth.
      .........Psa. 33:5 He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD.
      .........Psa. 33:6 By the [1] WORD of the LORD were the heavens made;
      .........and all the host of them the [2] BREATH
      .............of his [3] MOUTH.

      John 1:4 In him was LIGHT; and the LIFE was the light of men.
      John 1:5 ΒΆ And the LIGHT shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
      John 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
      John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
      John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
      John 1:9 That was the true LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
      John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
      John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
      John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
      John 1:13 Which were BORN, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
      John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his GLORY,
      .....the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

      That is why the first to use the TRIAS word said that the WORD of God is His SON. "God always had His Word, Wisdom, Breath with Him" so that if you could venture to say that God BEGAN to speak that is when the SON was eternally begotten. The Word is one of the MANY descriptors of God but IT was not a "god person equal with two other gods."

      John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake,
      .....He that cometh after me is preferred before me:
      .....for he was before me.
      John 1:16 And of his FULNESS have all we received, and GRACE for grace.
      John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but GRACE and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.
      John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only BEGOTTEN SON,
      .....which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED him.

      The only begotten SON of God is His Word articulated when God the Father breathes (spirit) His Mind into that of Jesus Who makes the Word audible and visible. The WORD is God's REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE: In the beginning was God's REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE which is NOT another god person.

      Jesus was GRACE personified but GRACE or LIGHT or LIFE are not members of a GOD FAMILY.
    Login Status
  • You are not logged in
    • Login

      Provides additional benefits such as notifications, signatures, and user authentication.

      Create Account
    Your Name
    Message Title
    Message Text
    Enable formatted text (what's this?)
    Notice: This is a moderated forum. Your post will not show up until a moderator approves the message. If you regularly have full posting privileges, you may have to login first.

    Place your text ad here.           See all text ads

    This web site is not part of or approved by any Church!

    ...........................THE BOOK

    What Happened at the Madison Church of Christ?

    There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.

    This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least you will recognize the signs early on.

    Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
    Some never will know! This book is for them as well.

    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

    It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

    At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

    They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.

    The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan. Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books, seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....

    At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

    Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

    The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

    The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

    This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill in some of the timeline.

    To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the background materials in the first of the book.

    This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our web site;

    Here is the list of players;

    5 Godly Elders
    10 Not so Godly Elders
    120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
    2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
    2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
    Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
    Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)

    Click Here......The Book is Available Now FREE

    Place your banner ad here.           See all banner ads ...About ...Links Library ...Sunday School in Exile ...Help Warn Others

    FastCounter by bCentral

    CM Visit Counter as of 6/25/2015

    Site Visits Since 6/30/2015
    page counter