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  • Re: Fire on the Mountain....Run Ken Run
    • Donnie (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      Posted Jan 4, 2017 1:17 AM


      One colossal problem in all of your arguments is that you are MAKING Jesus call himself God or Jehovah without permission from God his Father and the Scripture. You are also making God and Jesus call each other "O God" or "Oh God" [depending on the Bible version].

      The crux of the matter is that it was Jesus who cried and said to God the Father (his Father, your Father, my Father in heaven): "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me"? Why did Jesus not cry and say to the Trinity's "God the Holy Spirit": "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" if the H.S. was his co-God?

      Would you really expect God the Father to greet Jesus His Son:"My God, my co-God"?

      Well, Dave, there's no contradiction in the Scripture. Since Jesus is the Messiah sent by God the Father to earth, there's just no way that the LOGOS OF God was God the Father Himself. You're just as confused as Bill in making the Father and the Son interchangeable as co-Gods. Maybe not too long from now you and Bill will include the the Trinity's designation of the Holy Spirit as the other co-God -- all interchangeable.

      Why can't you just let the Scripture speak that God is not a man nor the son of man (Numbers 23:19, KJV), that Jesus was made by God both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36, KJV) and that the mediator between God and men is THE MAN Christ Jesus (I Tim. 2:5)?

      The few passages you quote to defend the Trinity dogma have been translated to promote that dogma. Remember the fact that Trinity was invented first ca. 4th century. Translators, including biased Trinitarians were born several, several centuries after.
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