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  • Re: God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      Posted Feb 25, 2017 9:01 PM

      Rubel Shelly and the Holy Spirit

      Rubel Shelly

      > "In the Old Testament God spoke at many times and in a variety of ways.
      > Through Jesus, God Himself spoke to His people during His lifetime.
      > Now God speaks through the Holy Spirit.

      The Holy Spirit will teach you all things,
      will call to your memory the things Jesus said,
      will guide you into all truth,

      will speak what He hears from the Father,
      will tell YOU what is yet to come,
      and glorify Christ as He reveals Christ to you.

      Only the Apostles and later Paul was promised to be GUIDED INTO ALL TRUTH: that doesn't leave ANY truth for the false teachers to hear:

      But, John 14:16 Jesus said "I" will come to you. 1 Peter 1:11 says that the prophets spoke by the SPIRIT OF CHRIST. See also Rev. 19:10)
      And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16
      I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:18

      The I who came as the fuller COMFORTER has a name:

      1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
      1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
      1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
      1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
      1John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
      1John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

      John says that the WORDS of Jesus is the ONLY resource and those who do not keep HIS Word are never perfected. The Word, Logos or Regulative Principle is the OPPOSITE of any human experience. However,

      Rubel Shelly says: Then I begin reading my Bible again and find that MY EXPERIENCE isn't all that unique.

      The Holy Guest will supply everything you need. In your weakness,
      you will feel his strength.
      Not only through the exhortation of the Word of God
      but in your daily routine,
      you will hear from
      and experience the Lord Jesus Christ.

      Blackaby and King (Souther Baptists) in Experiencing God asks:

      "Does God really speak to His people in our day?
      Will He reveal to you where He is working when He wants to use you?
      Yes! God has not changed. He still speaks to His people.
      If you have trouble hearing God speak,
      you are in trouble at the very heart of your Christian experience.

      Shelly etal says that neither Father nor Son speak today: the Holy Spirit (the breath of God) now TRUMPS God.

      The Word or Logos is the Regulative Principle excluding anything you can do or say.
      God IS that regulative principle or Word.
      Jesus SPEAKS that Word which He calls SPIRIT.

      Therefore, Rubel Shelly and all of those who use violence against you by claiming to know what you cannot know are ANTI Logos or ANTI christs.
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