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  • Bobby Valentine Massacres Churches of Christ
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      Posted Mar 8, 2017 7:09 PM

      Bobby Valentine and Marcionism and Churches of Christ.

      In previous essays under the working title "Marcionism & Churches of Christ" we have asked basically why are we here. Now I want to explore what happens when we actually "loose" the Hebrew Bible as a shaping/grounding source for "sound doctrine" (a phrase btw that cannot be reduced to the "marks of the church" as is so frequently done)

      A word on the word "loss." By "loss" I do not mean to say a preacher never does a character study of a person which is one of the more frequent uses of the Hebrew Bible or quotes from it from time to time. By "loss" I mean the doctrine/theology of the Hebrew Bible that formed and shaped Israel, [SHAPED] Jesus and the early church are no longer the primary "glasses" that we view all doctrine and life through. Are we shaped by the worldview that the "bible of Jesus" creates with its distinctive story of God?

      Yet the issue that bothers me most is the authors fail to realize that Christianity is in fact "Jewish."

      That's why they burn Phduhs selling their own silliness at retail.

      Like we say: it is not possible to be that Bible Illiterate and Paul confirms that Bobbby, John Mark etal are LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE

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