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  • Pepperdine.2017.Song of Solomon the Hieros Gamos
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Mar 31, 2017 7:47 PM

      I AM is an incomplete sentence and makes no sense: I AM Ken and you AM not?
      Foolish people think that when Jesus said "I am...." that proves that He was and ins Jehovah.

      This leads a major magazine publisher to use this to refute all of the Bible. For instance Jesus and Paul said:

      1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;


      He says that doesn't matter because Jesus said I AM without being able to let Jesus finish His sentence.

      On John 8:24, the word HE is not in the text. Jesus said, "...for if you believe not that I am." The word HE is inserted by the translators.

      He says that I will die in my sins.

      Ex. 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
      Ex. 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
      Ex. 3:15 And God said MOREOVER unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
      The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,
      hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.


      Notice that God knew grammar and finished His sentende: IAM that I AM. Jesus never said that.
      He IS The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,

      Our preacher-publisher wants the HE removed so that Jesus can say I AM God even when Jesus denies it.

      John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
      John 8:18 I AM one that bear witness of myself,
      .....and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
      John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father?
      .....Jesus answered, Ye neither know ME, nor MY Father:
      ..... if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.


      The Old Testament gives the names of the MANY Gods of the Jews: they even called the golden calf representing the Egyptian trinity. After the Lord-God of Abraham has saved them by grace, they demanded

      Ex. 32:1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him

      John 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple:
      and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
      John 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
      John 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
      John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath;
      .....I AM from above ye are of this world;
      .....I AM not of this world.


      Jesus was sent to find lost spirits: He does not pray for the world, the kosmos, the ecumenical or the earth kingdom of the world or EARTH BORN. All of their logos or god messengers (Hermes, Mercury, Kairos) are sons of "gods" who had sex with an earth mother. There were GIANTS then and now.

      John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
      .....for if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins.


      The Jews did not think that Jesus was saying that I AM the Lord-God of your fathers because that would be blasphemy and Jesus.

      Jesus said I AM four times and finished his sentence: but those not OF FAITH literally can neither hear nor read.

      John 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou?
      .....And Jesus saith unto them,
      .....Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.


      "I just told you three times that I AM and you cannot catch on.

      I AM one that bear witness of myself

      I AM from above

      I AM not of this world

      I AM HE

      Jesus did NOT say: I AM LORD-God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,
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