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  • Re: Jesus Is God, but NOT the Father
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      Posted May 30, 2017 10:38 PM

      I posted by answer above. God IS THE LIGHT and Jesus is the REFLECTOR of that LIGHT. Notice that Jesus claims no authority for anything. God is His WORD and Jesus is the WORD ARTICULATED but He speaks only what the father BREATHES into Him as He breathed into the prophets: God's Spirit in the Prophets is the Spirit OF Christ but not yet Jesus.

      If you say that the WORD became flesh AS Jesus, don't miss the point that God AS Word and Jesus who DELIVERED the Word is the LOGOS or regulative principle. Logos is widely used in Scripture and the Classics to EXCLUDE any personal opinions, personal experiences, rhetoric, poetry, singing, playing instruments or acting. Logos also outlaws pathos or any kind of emotional treatment as well as lectures on morality. You cannot add to, subtract from, enhance or anything but, as Peter affirms, marking yourself as a false teacher and despising God's Words which means blasphemy.

      Peter said that Jesus validated or made the prophets more certain NOT AVAILABLE for further expounding with the power of the same BREATH or Spirit so that Jesus could say MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT. When God's breath from His "mouth" is articulated by Jesus only, that SPIRIT becomes congealed WORDS.

      Jesus always denies that He has anything of Himself to offer but any power, authority or message ORIGINATES with the One God the Father and is reflected by the one mediator between man and god, the MAN Christ Jesus. Never feed anyone who quotes part of a verse and then makes up their own sermon deemed more powerful that God's Word. The MARK is that Jesus only spoke what the Father breathed or inspired Him to speak. The Pattern and Command of Jesus was to teach and observe only what He commanded. Jesus and Peter defines Holy Scripture as the Prophets and the prophecies made more certain by Jesus and left by eye and er witnesses for our ONLY TEXTBOOK for a School of the Word--ONLY.

      Contrary to the witchcraft of Spiritual Formation by humanoids, the WORD is Spirit and LIFE and the only power God gives us specificially to DEBUNK anyone who composes their own songs and sermons so they can SELL them using any body part.

      2Cor. 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit [BREATH] of the Lord.

      2Cor. 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

      Here is almost everyone should who sells their own stuff should run down and get themselves fitted for a MILLSTONE:

      Matt. 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

      That is because the ones God sent Jesus to rescue jumped at the chance to be baptized as the MARK or SEAL that they were not OF the World order. Our spirits have been translated into the heavenly kingdom where the church like an umbrella is a SAFE HOUSE from the blithering storm or spiritual terrorists.

      Try it again: Donnie has it right. GOD IS LIGHT but like light from the Sun we cannot see anything until that LIGHT is reflected off something or some one. We see through a GLASS darkly.

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