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  • Re: Cornelius: Exception of Rule?
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Jun 4, 2017 7:20 PM

      Peter’s point is that the proof they believed in Jesus and were saved (Acts 15:11) was the immediate display of the Holy Spirit “just as He also did to us.” God cleansed their hearts by faith. There is no mention of baptism or water in the entire passage.

      Conclusion:

      Water baptism is a public demonstration of our submission and dependence on Jesus Christ for the forgiveness our sins. Water does not save us. Faith or our depending on Jesus to forgive our sins is what is required to save .


      Faith or PISTIS includes TO COMPLY. Romans 10 proves it:

      Rom. 10:16 But they have not all OBEYED the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath BELIEVED our report?

      2Th. 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

      1Pet. 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that OBEY not the gospel of God?


      Acts 10:33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.
      Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

      Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell [poured forth from a greater height] on all them which heard the word.
      Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also WAS [at Pentecost] poured out the GIFT of the Holy Ghost.
      Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

      The Spirit in the Upper Room was the BREATH of Jesus Who returned at Pentecost as promised and "POURED OUT WHAT YOU SEE AND HEAR.." They saw "tongues like fire" and the sound of RUSHING WIND.

      The BREATH of God fell on Cornelius and others and the RESULT of God's BREATH is that "they heard them speaking." When the BREATH fluttered like a dove over Jesus it produced the SOUND: "This is my beloved son."

      POURED OUT is a one-time event. When Jesus promised to appear to the Apostles the direction was to ALL NATIONS including the Gentiles.

      Cornelius understood that Peter would tell them what Peter HAD BEEN COMMANDED TO DO.

      Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
      Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

      After Jesus returned to the Spirit World, the spirit or Breath which delivers WORDS would be received through SPEAKING. Otherwise, it makes God look foolish if disputed Jesus' connecting baptism with the REMISSION OF SINS.

      John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
      John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

      Receiving the Word IS receiving the Spirit or Breath of God and Cornelius was already a godfearer:

      Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

      The Spirit OF God is God's BREATH which transmits His MENTAL DISPOSITION. If you have a little "spirit" inside of you I would suggest an exorcist which you can find in most Catholic churches.

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      God's spirit is His BREATH which is repudiate those who think that a spirit IS a god person.

      Aristoph. Cl. 264 Soc.
      It becomes the old man to speak words of good omen, and to hearken to my prayer. O sovereign King, immeasurable Air, who keepest the earth suspended, and through bright Aether, and ye august goddesses, the Clouds, sending thunder and lightning, arise, appear in the air, O mistresses, to your deep thinker!


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