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  • Re: Does Rancor (or anyone) have a holy spirit or an unclean spirit?
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Jun 21, 2017 11:46 AM

      I always go back to the water (spirit) out of the Solid Rock so that it is not mudied.

      Captain Edward Johnson, in about 1631, wrote on what became Harvard University. The learned, reverend, and judicious Mr. Henry Dunster had received a patron for establishing a college. And he notes:

      "And as in all the other passages of this history the Wonder-working Providence of Sion's Saviour hath appeared, so especially in this work,

      the Fountains of learning being in a great measure stopped in our native Country at this time,

      so that the sweet waters of Shilo's streams must ordinarily pass into the Churches

      through the stinking channel of prelatical pride, beside all the filth that the fountains themselves were daily encumbered withal, insomuch that the Lord turned aside often from them,

      and refused the BREATHING of his blessed SPIRIT among them, which caused Satan (in these latter days of his transformation into an Angel of light)

      to make it a means to persuade people from the use of learning althgether that so in the next generation they might be destitute of such helps as the Lord hath been pleased hitherto to make use of,

      as chief means for the conversion of his people and building them up in the most holy faith,

      as also for breaking down the Kingdom of Antichrist."

      The Jews said that Jesus blasphemed by saying that He was God: Jesus said that the Jews blasphemed because He always claimed to be the SON OF GODand flesh and bones which is the opposite of spirit.

      Those who missed out on what Simple Simon learned at Synagogue school beginning at about age 5 HAVE NO NEED TO KNOW that either Ruwach, Ventus or Pneuma means WIND and never a god person.

      John 3:8 The WIND bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

      G4151. pneuvma pneuma, pnyoo´-mah; from 4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy Spirit: — ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare 5590.

      John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


      Only those who war "washed with water INTO the Word or the School of Christ receives A holy spirit in place of AN unholy spirit.

      John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
      John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
      John 3:8 The wind [pneuma] bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
      John 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
      John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
      John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
      John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
      John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
      John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:


      Would Jesus identify one of His FELLOW GODS as the WIND or BREATH and call "him" THE. Wouldn't that be blasphemy by refusing to call him-it by a NAME?






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