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      Posted Jul 9, 2017 11:50 PM

      7-11 songs, 7 words repeated 11 time, or contrariwise can add to the problem, but at the very least it does get on one's nerves.

      If you value the time in worship, you could factor the 60 minute worship and divide that by the time interval for the 7-11 song. By that factor you can determine if the song is worth that much coverage. If the song last 3 minutes, for example, that would be 5 percent of the worship period.

      Repetition of phrases does give emphasis, but propaganda has been associated with endless repetitions. Repetition is a characteristic of brain-washing, and shallow thinking, it has been shown. We don't need propaganda mixed with worship.

      The old song "Jesus Loves Me" is an example of a short song, that carries immense meaning, that even a child can sing. It is simple but does a great job without repetition.

      Repetition in itself is often used wisely, such as in the choruses of songs.

      Change of topic is another consideration, and this is why good sermons often have three or more points. If we sing five or six songs of the same type, then we are not getting change of topics.

      Several Sundays composed of strictly praise songs, can fail to expand the listener's Biblical knowledge and spirituality. It is much better to mix the praise songs with other types of hymns, and to have a good balance.

      The 1960s was when the craze began that worship should all be "praise songs." I think Hill Song has led this movement.

      The worship time on Sundays has increased from 60 minutes to more like 80 minutes in many churches, often one hour and a half. This may be because there are too many songs, too many songs of the same type, songs contrived by music leaders and not by Biblical ministers and scholars, and too many announcements.

      Songs are often geared toward those under 30, but most who have lived long enough to experience grief and disappointment in their lives, so there needs to be songs about these tragedies, and that means most of the songs need to be other than strictly praise songs. The preacher of all people might profit from singing more songs that express disappointment. It might be shocking to know that the Psalms, which are often referred to as Praise Songs, have Psalms expressing severe disappointment with God. Many who quote the Psalms as examples of praise need to read them to see the Psalmist often even challenges God. For example, "God why have you allowed this to happen to me."
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