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  • Re: Grace Centered means "The Holiness of Sin."
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Jul 31, 2017 9:29 AM

      Rubel Shelly says that Paul was ALL things to ALL people meaning that he "fellowshipped" everyone in order to WIN them and thus discounting the power of the gospel. Paul meant what early preachers meant: when a farmer was picking cotton or putting out a fire the preacher became a cotton picker or a fire stopper.

      "The late Dr. Charles R. Erdman, professor of practical theology at Princeton Theological Seminary at the turn of the century, also refutes the evangelism philosophies of modern day pastors, evangelists and church growth EXPERTS in his exposition of First Corinthians. Apparently, even in Erdman's day, Christian leaders were quoting the apostle

      Paul's statement "I am become all things to all men" and using such scripture to support their QUESTIONABLE evangelism techniques.

      Erdman says, "By this phrase Paul means EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of what it means in common speech today. He does not signify any weak compliance with the wrong actions and immoral practices of others.

      "He is not approving the maxim: 'When in Rome do as the Romans do.'"

      "No, Paul knew that to be a friend of the world is to be an enemy of God. He knew that God is holy, His Word is holy and that all believers are to be holy and separated from the world unto the Gospel of Jesus Christ. FOUNDATION Magazine.

      "To the Jews, he became "as a Jew." When Paul was in the company of Jews, he refrained from doing anything that would offend them, even though he had the liberty to do those things. Gromacki mentions that "[Paul] did not alter his message or his morals. He was both firm and flexible at the same time." Again, Martin says, "It is as though Paul were admonishing that

      "if you want to give a testimony for Christ to an orthodox Jew,
      "you don't begin by serving him ham for dinner." Matt D. Costella FOUNDATION Magazine, Jan-Feb 1999

      http://www.truthfulwords.org/articles/allthings.html

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