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  • Re: Scripture Against Scripture? NOT
    • Donnie Cruz (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      Posted Aug 6, 2017 10:55 PM

      In "Silence is Golden" (August 5 2017, 4:47 PM), Bill posted:
      Jesus was the image of God on earth, because God, being Eternal Spirit, could not reveal His true appearance to man lest man die. Physical man could not stand in the actual presence of God. Therefore, God/the Word took upon Himself the form of the physical man Jesus (the Word became flesh). The verses we've mentioned before attest to that: mighty God/everlasting Father/Prince of Peace, God with us, Jesus and the Father are One, he who has seen Jesus has seen the Father, etc.

      Many in Christendom use these and other quotes from the Scripture in their attempt to prove that the Pope's Trinity creed is correct.

      (1) Mighty God. The reference to God is that of "the Almighty God" (Gen. 17[1]; Ezek. 10[5]; Rev. 19[15]. Jesus is not referred to as "God" in the Bible; much less as "the Almighty God." Jesus was prophesied to be mighty god or mighty ruler of his kingdom.

      (2) Everlasting Father. Only Isaiah 9:6 mentions this expression and is not referencerd anywhere else in the Bible. Yes, there are numerous references to God as "the Father of Jesus Christ" Rom. 15[6]; 2 Cor. 1[3]; 2 Cor. 11[31]; Eph. 1:3,17; and many more). Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 in context was prophesied as "the father" (originator) of the endless age of his rule in his kingdon (the church).

      (3) Prince of Peace. Being named or called "Prince of Peace" is appropriate in Jesus' case. But don't ever insult God the Father with equating Him to being "Prince of Peace. After all, the Father is "the God of Peace" (Rom. 15[33]; Rom. 16[20]; Phil. 4[9]; 1 Thess. 5[23]; Heb. 13[20]).

      (4) God with us. "God with us" is not a sentence. No, "God with us" does not make Jesus God. Rather, that means that with the presence of Jesus, God is with us.

      (5) Jesus and the Father are One. The word "One" is capitalized? God and Jesus are not conjoined. The are united; they are one in purpose, but not as one being.

      (6) He who has seen Jesus has seen the Father. This is a desperate claim. Keep in mind that Jesus is THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD.

      Each of these individual claims in the attempt to make Jesus God deserves to be discussed in more detail. None of the above declares that Jesus is God no matter how deep and intense the perception is.
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    Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

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    Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

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