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  • Re: One Verse is Enough and the DO NOT CONTRADICT
    • Donnie Cruz (Login Donnie.Cruz)
      Posted Aug 11, 2017 12:06 AM


      The Scripture agrees with you when you say both "God and Christ." The conjunction "and" [ask Bill Crump about conjunctions] identifies THEM (not HIM) as two separate Beings. The problem, though, with the grammar expert [Bill] is that the conjunction "and" loses its significance completely whenever BOTH God AND Christ are mentioned in numerous passages.

      One Being (God the Father) sent another Being, the Messiah, to earth. God did not become flesh as the Pope and his followers believe. Instead, it was the WORD (LOGOS) OF God (what God SPOKE) that was made flesh -- that occurred only two millennia ago.

      The Scripture disagrees with and disproves Dave's perception/notion of BOTH God and Jesus Christ the Son of God as "being ONE GOD."

      The Scripture can/does clearly teach that there is only ONE GOD -- not 2-Gods-in-One.

      ------ Mal. 2[10] ... hath not one God created us?
      ------ Mark 12[32] ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
      ------ Rom. 3[30] ... it is one God, which shall justify....
      ------ 1 Cor. 8[6] But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
      ------ Eph. 4[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all....
      ------ 1 Tim. 2[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
      ------ Jas. 2[19] ... there is one God....

      When Dave does not believe the Scripture saying that the MAN Christ Jesus is sitting on the right hand of God, it is conclusive that Dave believes that it is God [Jesus is God, according to Dave] sitting on the right hand of God -- now: that is Dave's fallacious and unscriptural logic.

      When Dave says that the Son of God (Jesus) is God, it is conclusive that Dave believes that God is the Son of God -- now: that is Dave's fallacious, unscriptural logic.

      "These Scriptures speak of both God and Christ as being ONE GOD," Dave says. That's Dave talking, not the Scripture.
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