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  • Re: Musicators: Religious Music and Parasites
    • Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)
      ConcernedMembersMadison
      Posted Dec 14, 2017 5:25 PM

      The Classical writers were not IGNORANT of obvious facts well documented on clay tablets long before Moses.

      Aristot. Pol. 8.1339b

      http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0058%3Abook%3D8%3Asection%3D1339b

      [1339b] [1] instead of learning to enjoy it rightly and be able to judge it when they hear others performing, as the Spartans do?
      .....for the Spartans although they do not learn to perform
      .....can nevertheless judge good and bad music correctly, so it is said.
      And the same argument applies also if music is to be employed for refined enjoyment and entertainment;
      .....why need people learn to perform themselves instead of enjoying music played by others?
      And we may consider the conception that we have about the gods:
      .....Zeus does not sing and harp to the poets himself.
      .....But professional musicians we speak of as vulgar people,
      .....and indeed we think it NOT MANLY to perform music, except when DRUNK or for FUN.

      But perhaps these points will have to be considered afterwards;
      .....our first inquiry is whether music ought not or ought to be included in education,
      .....and what is its efficacy among the three uses of it that have been discussed—
      .....does it serve for education or amusement or entertainment?

      It is reasonable to reckon it under all of these heads, and it appears to participate in them all.
      .....Amusement is for the sake of relaxation,
      .....and relaxation must necessarily be pleasant,
      .....for it is a way of curing the pain due to laborious work;
      .....also entertainment ought admittedly to be not only honorable but also pleasant,
      .....for happiness is derived from both honor and pleasure;

      [20] but we all pronounce music to be one of the pleasantest things,
      .....whether instrumental or instrumental
      .....and vocal music together
      at least Musaeus1 says, ‘Song is man's sweetest joy,’
      .....and that is why people with good reason introduce it
      .....at parties and entertainments,
      .....for its exhilarating effect)


      "Dionysus was the ancient Greek god of fertility, ritual dance, and mysticism, the mysterious and paradoxical god of altered states, of ECSTATIC and terror, of wildness and of the most blessed deliverance - the mad god whose apperance sends mankind into madness. Euripedes famously called him 'most gentle and most terrible'.

      The inner force of this dual reality is so great that he appears among men like a storm. All tradition, all order must be shattered. Life becomes suddenly an ecstasy - an ecstasy of blessedness, but an ecstasy, no less, of terror. His appearance is startling, disquieting, violent. It arouses opposition and agitation.

      "Dionysus is identified with ecstatic possession, wine, mountains, wild animals, frenzied women, frenzied dancing, fertility and, especially, the coincidence of opposites.


      Dionysus was the "god of the Jews" and Jesus called the MEN now children PIPING in the market place trying to induce him and others into singing or weeping and dancing as a result of the initiation into the ALWAY-GAY priestood. Paul silences them in Rome (Romans 14) so that the assembly might be EDIFIED or EDUCATED by "using one mind and one mouth to speak THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING" or "Scripture for our Comfort" the Paraclete or another Comforter is the Spirit OF TRUTH from the NAME of the Comforter, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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